From a data science intern to an applied AI engineer: Akshay Gautam

[0:00] hello welcome and Namaste today my guest
[0:03] is ake ake and I met about a year ago in
[0:08] a Twitter space and then we form our own
[0:11] small
[0:12] community um which I really love all the
[0:15] people there ache started his career as
[0:19] a machine learning data science field
[0:21] but then mve
[0:23] into
[0:25] Ai and he has been involved with many
[0:29] project many companies so with that I
[0:32] want to hand over mik to AE AE tell us
[0:36] about what are the different thing that
[0:38] you are doing I know there is a slight
[0:40] change in your career path give us an
[0:43] idea what type of work that you do hello
[0:46] first of all and thank you for calling
[0:48] this when you asked me to be here I was
[0:51] very happy because I don't consider
[0:54] myself very accomplished as of now and
[0:57] like I look up to you a lot as you
[1:00] asking me to come on this podcast really
[1:01] great thing for me so thank you for that
[1:03] first of all and yeah coming to my
[1:05] career I started my career as a data
[1:07] scientist I actually started as a data
[1:09] science intern when I was in college in
[1:11] third year and I continued the same
[1:14] thing and I became a a full-time data
[1:15] scientist after college and recently as
[1:18] recent as January of this year I
[1:21] switched into applied AI engineering
[1:23] where I basically take existing
[1:25] algorithms and apply it in business to
[1:28] derive business result thank you a
[1:31] what's your typical day and week look
[1:34] like if I were to depends on how my
[1:38] career is going and by that usually I
[1:40] work two part-time jobs and not one
[1:43] fulltime job so if I'm working on two
[1:44] part-time jobs I'll usually a lot four
[1:47] hours to the first job and other four
[1:49] hours to the second job during so the
[1:52] first job will be during the day so in
[1:54] the like morning session and the other 4
[1:57] hours will be late at night it won't be
[1:59] in the middle of the day so I'll usually
[2:01] wake up and go to the gym I try to stay
[2:05] in shape I try to stay in athletic shape
[2:08] so that I can lift my own body weight
[2:10] and I can run and stuff like that so I
[2:11] go to the gym and then I come back and
[2:14] cook breakfast for myself I stay alone
[2:15] so I cook for myself I cook breakfast
[2:18] and then I'll start my first job I'll
[2:20] sit down I'll usually I write a lot of
[2:24] SQL code and python code sometimes and
[2:28] my work also involves a lot of meetings
[2:30] so I have to meet with a lot of people
[2:31] understand what they struggling with
[2:33] sometimes I meet with clients of my
[2:36] company sometimes I meet with my own
[2:37] freelancing clients and stuff a lot of
[2:40] meetings usually I always keep meetings
[2:42] during the daytime so that there's good
[2:44] lighting and stuff right and then I just
[2:48] as soon as my I I finish my work I'll
[2:50] start cooking my lunch I'll cook my
[2:52] lunch eat and then I'll have kind of
[2:54] some time at my hand I'll use this time
[2:57] depending on if I'm learning something
[2:59] so I'll take need a time to go through
[3:00] the fourth materials and stuff and
[3:02] usually I'm learning something on the
[3:03] side if I'm not learning something I'll
[3:06] take this time to watch one or two
[3:08] episodes of some anime or some movie or
[3:10] some show and then in the evening I'll
[3:12] just go out for a evening walk and buy
[3:14] groceries for the next day and then
[3:17] again late at night I'll start working
[3:20] I'll usually work till 8 8:30 and then
[3:24] start cooking dinner sometimes I'll
[3:25] order usually I order dinner from
[3:27] outside but sometimes I cook as well
[3:30] and then I'll eat dinner and then again
[3:32] continue work if I still have to if I'm
[3:34] done then I'll read for the last 30
[3:38] minutes where I keep my phone and all my
[3:40] gadgets away from myself and I read for
[3:43] 30 minutes sometimes when I am in
[3:45] Twitter space and stuff I would read at
[3:47] like really late 11:30 and 12 but I keep
[3:50] in mind to always read a book for about
[3:53] 10 minutes to 30 minutes every day
[3:55] before going to bed and it really sooths
[3:58] like everything and know about my body
[4:00] and then I sleep and that's how our day
[4:03] looks like nice do you do any kind of
[4:06] like formal planning your day or week
[4:08] let me just grab my phone and show you
[4:10] something so this is something I
[4:12] advocate for a lot of people have seen
[4:14] because in my uh life I also guide a lot
[4:17] of students Juniors even my fellow
[4:19] batchmates in my college I did a lot of
[4:21] talks and workshops and stuff and there
[4:23] I would ask people how do you plan and
[4:25] they're like oh I set goals I set this
[4:27] and that and then 3 days later I ask
[4:29] what's happening they're like oh I just
[4:30] missed one checkpoint and then
[4:32] everything was dumpster fire right and I
[4:35] tell them that instead of that why not
[4:37] set systems right and I have learned
[4:40] this the hard way that setting systems
[4:43] for me is what works the best so instead
[4:45] of for example every day I wake up and I
[4:47] have decide what to cook it will create
[4:51] more friction in my life and I would be
[4:53] sitting down sping my phone thinking and
[4:55] deciding in that what I do instead is I
[4:58] have almost my whole month basically
[5:01] planned in my calendar like this okay
[5:03] right so you see like I have blogs for
[5:06] everything I I cook food at this time I
[5:08] cook breakfast at that time and this
[5:10] when I work out when I read everything
[5:12] is like planned here basically allotted
[5:14] it's not strict I don't always stick to
[5:17] this robotic life or something but every
[5:19] day I wake up I don't have to decide
[5:21] what to do and this I usually do in the
[5:24] starting of a month I usually do it for
[5:27] a month in advance and now this really
[5:30] depends again uh I don't go too much in
[5:33] details I keep it generic so I will not
[5:35] go oh I will cook just exactly on this
[5:38] day but I know that I have to take this
[5:40] amount of protein in this week and this
[5:42] amount of basically my diet and stuff so
[5:44] that I stay healthy because I still on
[5:46] play this planning is is there and I
[5:49] have created this system where I don't
[5:51] have to think much every day when I wake
[5:53] up and what for do how to do as long as
[5:55] I have tasks at hand and I always have
[5:58] tasks at hand so so I would be just
[6:00] doing things one by one as soon as I
[6:02] complete task one I know that as soon as
[6:05] I complete task one I have to start this
[6:07] and this is Tas two and as it's
[6:09] basically like a stack you go through
[6:11] this is First Step this is second step
[6:13] and then the third step so this is how
[6:16] it goes usually yeah some days when I
[6:18] don't have much to do and when I say I
[6:21] don't have much to do I mean by I don't
[6:23] a lot of Tas to me that day I will just
[6:25] chill out I'll just be on my bed enjoy
[6:28] build Electronics that is my hobby uh or
[6:31] play the ugele I have a ugele and I try
[6:34] to learn it I'm ter well at it or
[6:36] sometimes I just watch anime so
[6:38] that when it comes to goal setting we
[6:42] had a conversation on a Twitter post
[6:45] that you posted and then I shared mine
[6:48] quarterly planning so let's talk about
[6:50] that how do you
[6:52] plan your quarter month or long-term
[6:56] goals yeah I don't have qu early
[7:00] plannings I don't I don't set goals
[7:03] according to the time I all lot time
[7:05] according to the goals right right so
[7:08] not necessarily every time my goal will
[7:10] need a quarter right sometimes I might
[7:12] want to achieve something very small for
[7:13] example like right now the prodject that
[7:15] I have not yet announced but I think by
[7:17] the time this episode is out that
[7:19] project will be announced as well I was
[7:22] trying to find you know 0.5 billion
[7:24] model in a free Google collab so
[7:25] basically free resources to find you a
[7:27] large language model not so large but
[7:29] see the large language model so I was
[7:31] building that it requires let's say 3
[7:33] days right it's still one of very good
[7:37] check points for my life for my career
[7:39] and stuff but it requires a very small
[7:41] time now if I all lot a lot of time to
[7:44] it I will still have my time slots
[7:46] engaged but I will not have anything
[7:48] meaningfully productive to do in the
[7:49] time slot so instead what I do is I have
[7:52] goals first of all I have to achieve
[7:53] this I to do this and then I allot time
[7:56] now the thing with goals is I don't like
[8:00] to set typical goals like the way most
[8:02] people do like I have seen people around
[8:03] me or you have seen people around you
[8:05] who goes okay I have to get this I have
[8:08] to achieve this right my approach to
[8:11] that ended with my J preparations
[8:14] because that is definitely not the way
[8:16] to go for me personally it is I always
[8:19] allot goals in terms of input instead of
[8:22] saying that I want to earn this much
[8:25] amount of money I would say I want to
[8:26] build these many products or I want to
[8:28] work it this company for just longer my
[8:31] goals are always in the forms of inputs
[8:34] right I don't want 10,000 subscribers on
[8:36] my YouTube channel my goal is I have to
[8:38] publish 10 videos by the end of this
[8:41] quarter so that would be the way I set
[8:43] goals to publish 10 videos on my YouTube
[8:47] channel how much do I need so I'll go
[8:50] look at everything all the resource
[8:52] requirement time is one of those
[8:53] resources I have other resources right I
[8:55] have my own energy as a resource so I'll
[8:58] consider how much does it take to create
[9:01] one video and then I'll roughly take for
[9:05] 10 videos and then allot that time to
[9:07] this goal and this has by far worked the
[9:10] best for me I usually stay on track stay
[9:13] on time respond back to people on time
[9:15] and so this has worked phenomenally well
[9:18] for me previously I have tried to do the
[9:21] traditional method of I want to achieve
[9:23] this I want to do this that usually what
[9:25] happens that you miss one checkpoint and
[9:28] everything is just out of your hand and
[9:31] that's the reason I strayed away from
[9:33] that to this new system that I have I
[9:36] will give you a slight challenge there
[9:39] okay what you explaining is action
[9:44] oriented goal action based goal like in
[9:46] 30 days I will write 30 articles you
[9:49] gave one
[9:50] example
[9:52] similarly I will go to gym 5 days a week
[9:56] for a month something like that
[9:59] but you
[10:02] have a why somewhere why you would do
[10:06] that so if I will write 30 article in 30
[10:09] days even if you're not thinking about I
[10:13] will gain 50 new followers you still
[10:17] have to think about why you are doing
[10:21] that at the first place right you so you
[10:24] probably already have that you may not
[10:26] realize it though no I I do realize it
[10:28] actually it's very conscious mechanism
[10:31] and this I have been asked this before
[10:34] these are students by the way these are
[10:35] like Po students and while I was in my
[10:38] fourth year they approach me they're
[10:39] like wait you just said on stage that
[10:42] you have only input oriented goals like
[10:44] action oriented goals then how do you
[10:46] like what if nothing comes out of it
[10:48] right what if you don't earn money you
[10:49] build products you work for compy what
[10:51] if you don't earn money what if right
[10:53] that those scenarios and how I told them
[10:55] and how I look at it is I make an
[10:58] investment in my own future every time I
[11:01] do this kind of input oriented uh know
[11:04] goals I make an investment in my own
[11:06] future writing 50
[11:08] articles might and might not gain me 50
[11:11] followers right but it will definitely
[11:13] make my writing game stronger and maybe
[11:15] the 501 article that I write is better
[11:17] than the previous 50 articles and the
[11:19] thing which life as long as you are not
[11:21] ching reward and chesing Excellence
[11:24] reward comes to you and this has been my
[11:27] experience for the past
[11:30] s to eight years mostly that I have been
[11:32] exposed to the world before 8 years I
[11:34] was mostly in my Village but that is a
[11:36] different discussion that for those
[11:38] eight years or so I have seen that this
[11:40] has been the case every time that I have
[11:42] tried to chase reward that okay I I have
[11:46] to get a 30,000 for my first internship
[11:48] my roommate had a 10,000 per month job
[11:51] 10,000 rupees per month job and my goal
[11:54] was I have to get a 3,000 per month job
[11:58] and I worked hard for I worked hard for
[12:01] three months I gave myself three months
[12:02] of time I applied to hundreds of
[12:04] companies many of them wrote back and
[12:06] most of them were ready to pay 5,000
[12:09] 7,000 10,000 12,000 was the maximum
[12:12] offer that I got and all of this because
[12:15] at the time machine learning was not as
[12:16] sexy as it is now right and at the time
[12:20] people were like not willing to take
[12:21] risks on a beginner a student who claims
[12:25] that he knows machine learning from the
[12:26] unknown college and I fail basically in
[12:30] my goal that was to get a Trad interpace
[12:32] job and then I thought okay fine I'm not
[12:36] getting my job anyways so why not I just
[12:39] take my time to build good projects and
[12:41] just enjoy that and when the time comes
[12:44] I'll sit for college placements and get
[12:46] something for myself that was my thought
[12:49] process at one point of time so I did
[12:51] that I started building projects with
[12:53] full involvement and I started posting a
[12:55] it on year under there and then this one
[12:58] person uh post about something related
[13:00] to my project and I saw that this person
[13:02] is basically a director of data in one
[13:04] of the companies and I asked him
[13:06] director of data looking for an
[13:07] internship and he was like let's talk
[13:10] and then we talk and they asked me for
[13:12] money and this time I did not make any I
[13:14] I was like whatever you pay it's fine
[13:16] because I was not saving money anymore
[13:18] and the letter I received it was for
[13:21] 75,000 rupees my first internship was 75
[13:24] I could not have dreamed about it like
[13:26] in my college people get that as
[13:27] fulltime salaries right
[13:30] I was struggling for 30,000 per month
[13:32] job and now I had a 20,000 just because
[13:35] I was investing in myself rather than
[13:37] trying to work for a tangible goal which
[13:40] I might or might not get depending on
[13:43] what happens right and that was my whole
[13:45] this is basically everything about my
[13:47] life comes from my own personal
[13:48] experiences everything I have very few
[13:51] things to refer to other people's
[13:52] advises I have very few things to refer
[13:54] to other people's books and stuff almost
[13:56] all of my whatever I like practice I
[13:59] whatever I do comes through my own life
[14:01] experiences somewhere I have gotten hurt
[14:03] and I have learned from it and then now
[14:05] I practice the right way to go about it
[14:08] so that is how I look at it but I would
[14:11] be curious to know how you would look at
[14:13] it for product matter like in short if
[14:15] you want to so thank you for sharing
[14:17] that I will try to give you a Cy or
[14:23] something right illustration of what I
[14:27] understand based on what you said you
[14:29] started walking from
[14:31] Delhi toward south okay you have the
[14:34] clarity that you're in software
[14:37] development you not in marketing not in
[14:41] manufacturing right you have that kind
[14:43] of high level Clarity that you're using
[14:46] this mechanism or vehicle yeah software
[14:51] development is the vehicle that you're
[14:54] on and the direction is towards South
[14:58] then
[15:00] if you have this idea of if I'm taking
[15:04] these five steps every day or every week
[15:08] and these are my current list of
[15:11] activities or input that you're taking
[15:14] and then let's say from Delhi to
[15:17] gura then you're adjusting and seeing
[15:20] how much progress that you have made
[15:22] what you like what you don't like and
[15:23] then you you made some tweak and then
[15:26] you started working again you read Agra
[15:30] and then you using everything that has
[15:33] you already done what's the next thing
[15:35] and then you setting that at some point
[15:38] you may reach Bangalore or you may reach
[15:42] Mumbai it doesn't matter both are great
[15:45] locations and then you're going toward
[15:48] that right is is that a good
[15:50] analogy but one difference would be like
[15:54] most of the times when I'm working on
[15:56] something for example I'm taking the
[15:57] steps right I know the direction and I
[16:00] take the right steps so by far I have
[16:03] only reached the correct destination
[16:06] right and this is like very intuitive
[16:08] like you are in the right direction and
[16:09] you're taking like Steps it's just that
[16:11] you're not forcing yourself to get there
[16:15] you're forcing yourself to just maintain
[16:18] consistency and just 50 steps 100% I
[16:22] think where I'm going with this story is
[16:25] there will be time in your life where
[16:27] you will have three tempting
[16:30] directions so you are in Agra you could
[16:33] go toward I don't know next you could go
[16:36] toward MP Rajasthan and up right and
[16:41] they are all tempting Direction and then
[16:44] you will have to consciously make a
[16:46] choice which direction you will be going
[16:50] for whatever next iteration that you
[16:52] will have right those will be the moment
[16:57] where you will have to make those hard
[16:59] choices whether out of five opportunity
[17:04] which one or two opportunity that you
[17:06] will pick and which three opportunity
[17:09] that you will let go those for me that's
[17:13] when I just started using quarterly
[17:16] planning that for this quarter out of 10
[17:20] thing that I could do I will go in this
[17:23] direction I will work on these two
[17:25] project and I will not look at these
[17:27] three other things
[17:30] very nice way to yeah I think we we Shar
[17:34] this thing in common because remember
[17:37] the list that I had posted on Twitter
[17:39] and it was actually a lot of things that
[17:41] I wanted to do a lot of so I had this
[17:43] system where things I need to do and
[17:46] then I had things I want to do and then
[17:48] I had picked the top three things that I
[17:50] would be doing and then everything else
[17:52] I just ignore the tal Vision so yeah we
[17:55] we do that a lot of study a lot of
[17:58] valuation go this exactly where I was
[18:00] going you are already doing that without
[18:04] realizing but yeah I had to develop a
[18:06] system for myself because I am somebody
[18:09] who go after shiny
[18:11] object and for my 925 career I had
[18:15] really focused approach but everything
[18:18] that I have done on my side is always
[18:21] based on all the shiny objects that I
[18:24] will do so I probably have done probably
[18:27] have tried 20 30 different things from
[18:30] building a web web Agency on the side
[18:32] where I had three developer working for
[18:34] me to starting an Amazon FBA project
[18:39] building my own um app for which uh five
[18:44] of our friend contributed a fund and
[18:47] created a team of 15 developer in India
[18:50] and we run a project for a year and then
[18:54] there are a lot of things that I have
[18:55] done in terms of writing projects
[18:59] so I've done too
[19:02] many but since April of
[19:06] 2021 I was able to stick to this one
[19:10] direction again talking about my site
[19:12] project One Direction which is writing
[19:15] and building content and gaining the
[19:18] clarity around exactly what I want to do
[19:21] in next 5 10 15 years to pull off
[19:26] something like that you have to have the
[19:28] level of I think regulation that you
[19:31] have and that is something I admire you
[19:33] for I have told this before many times
[19:35] in spaces also many times in spaces that
[19:37] you were not in that I admire you for
[19:41] having this kind of Regulation and the
[19:44] way you Cate words for example sometimes
[19:47] you have given some answers to me or to
[19:49] ASIS or to other of our other friends of
[19:53] ours I have noticed this that I can see
[19:56] the regulation that you have and that is
[19:58] something
[19:59] that comes and I think most people will
[20:01] have to get there one with one day for
[20:04] now like for me it's the conscious
[20:06] decision to actually let myself go with
[20:08] shy objects because I know right now is
[20:10] the time to go with it right like
[20:13] sometimes for example right now I am
[20:14] choosing to sacrifice some of my career
[20:19] for my family and my Village Life and
[20:22] this place that I grew up in this
[20:24] environment so this wall is made of
[20:26] actually soil mud and Bricks this is a
[20:29] Mud House basically so I'm choosing to
[20:32] sacrifice some of my career for this
[20:34] life but one day I know that I would
[20:36] have to get that inter Vision that you
[20:39] talked about right now and I somewhat
[20:42] have it in terms of again what I want to
[20:44] achieve and what whereever I want to get
[20:46] to but in terms of do I get distracted
[20:50] yes all the time right happens all the
[20:52] time and sometimes I do notice it and I
[20:55] let myself get distracted because that
[20:57] is life right like too much regulation
[21:00] is also in my eyes it's I will feel like
[21:04] I will feel like what's the difference
[21:05] between this iPad and this Mac and Me if
[21:09] if we have this similar kind of routine
[21:11] Rhythm and everything right I let myself
[21:14] go out of the Rhythm once in a while and
[21:16] then pull myself back and again this
[21:18] pulling back thing is again based on
[21:20] systems that I have built right so what
[21:23] if I lose one checkpoint what if I lose
[21:25] two checkpoints can I come back and
[21:28] coming back recovering from a fall is I
[21:30] think one of the biggest points in all
[21:33] of this goal setting and goal achieving
[21:36] logistic area where I've seen a lot of
[21:40] people who have great goal setting
[21:42] abilities fail because they don't have a
[21:44] recovery plan built where once they fall
[21:47] they don't know how to get back they
[21:48] don't know how to get back into Z and
[21:51] this again I have learned from
[21:52] experience I have suffered because of
[21:54] this and then I built a system where
[21:56] every time I lose track of but I bounc
[21:59] by right build a recovery system of it
[22:02] and I think we'll talk about it more
[22:04] later in other sections but yeah that is
[22:07] how I look about it man this was amazing
[22:11] it didn't we didn't plan for talking
[22:13] this long in this section or this
[22:16] setting but I enjoyed it it was amazing
[22:20] let's go into some
[22:22] flashback after college until now it's 2
[22:26] years right total since since you
[22:29] completed your college yes yes okay uh
[22:32] yeah 2023 October of 2023 so not exactly
[22:35] two years but I have been working for
[22:38] longer so my experience is of two years
[22:41] but I have graduated one year ago okay
[22:43] okay so AE tell me something you could
[22:45] have done hundreds of different things
[22:48] let's start with
[22:49] college why did you chose to go in
[22:52] engineering yeah so I did from this
[22:55] unknown College most of you don't know
[22:57] about it it name is p is College of
[23:00] Engineering it's in a city called Manda
[23:02] Manda is in Karnataka it's about 90 kilm
[23:05] away from Bangalore it's in between
[23:07] Bangalore and myour okay it's a it's
[23:10] like the political capital of K it's a
[23:12] nice College in terms of infrastructure
[23:14] and environment so because it's away
[23:17] from the city it has a lot of land and a
[23:19] lot of greenery a lot of good
[23:21] infrastructure to be honest nice people
[23:22] lovely people to be honest very lovely
[23:24] people welcoming I was a northern I did
[23:27] not speak d the language back in the now
[23:29] I can speak can very well at the time I
[23:32] could not so the people are lovely there
[23:35] but in terms of opportunities it was
[23:37] slightly different right few people who
[23:40] would talk about tech few people very
[23:42] few people in fact who
[23:43] would uh in engineering college right so
[23:47] that is my college
[23:49] background and uh talking about the
[23:52] career choice this path I I I don't
[23:55] think we can start from my college we
[23:58] have to like go back and I start from
[24:02] this place this very place where I was
[24:04] born I was born and thankfully so in my
[24:07] life and I think this deserves some
[24:09] mention in my life
[24:13] my strong main role model is my father
[24:17] right and it would be an understatement
[24:19] if I said that I consider my father
[24:22] equal to God it would be an
[24:23] understatement right I have said this to
[24:26] other than his face I have said it to
[24:29] everyone else right and that is because
[24:33] and you'll see why I say this right so I
[24:36] was born in this place and the
[24:37] background you have some idea but I can
[24:39] talk about it now I no issue so this
[24:42] place has a very dark background right
[24:45] very violent background like I have when
[24:48] I was a kid I used to see dead bodies
[24:50] like every day it was a generic thing
[24:53] like at one point I was like H it's a
[24:55] dead boy it's just a weird head no big
[24:58] de so I was born here and again no
[25:01] internet no phone no those uh stuff and
[25:05] my father has this mentality where is
[25:07] let a kid enjoy its life okay let a kid
[25:12] just be a kid for as long as they can so
[25:14] he did not try to send me to school as
[25:16] soon as possible he just let me play
[25:19] just let me enjoy and I would just go
[25:21] out keep playing with wood and stuff and
[25:24] at one point I was not going to school I
[25:26] was four 5 years old I'm not going to
[25:28] school I have a lot of time in my hand
[25:30] now I have developed from being a simple
[25:35] I cannot play with sticks and stones
[25:36] anymore because that is not
[25:38] sophisticated enough for a 5-year old
[25:40] but I don't have
[25:42] toys so now that creates a need for me
[25:45] to build something for myself and from
[25:48] there starts my journey of trying to
[25:50] build things and in the beginning I
[25:51] would just take wooden sticks and stuff
[25:53] try to build something out of it like a
[25:55] something whatever I could make right
[25:57] and with it and then about 6 years old
[26:01] my father I think that was the first
[26:02] time that I have in my memory that I
[26:04] went out with my father yeah right I
[26:07] went to a Fed basically and got a toy
[26:10] like I was it I think it's natural for
[26:12] me to just get ad to toys when I was a
[26:15] kid I got a toy and by the time I came
[26:19] home I was very excited because this is
[26:20] I have a toy and I was Ling with it
[26:22] playing with it day one day two fine day
[26:25] three I was bored of it I and now what
[26:29] was going on in my head was actually
[26:32] wait this is fun to play with but how
[26:34] does this work and the only way for me
[26:37] to find out was to dismantle it and I
[26:39] did exactly that I broke it I I broke it
[26:42] and I got few slaps from my mother which
[26:45] is thankfully sling but I broke it and I
[26:49] somewhat broke the internal parts also I
[26:51] damaged almost everything did not
[26:52] understood anything about it and then I
[26:55] asked my father to bring me another toy
[26:57] and my father father did and this time
[26:59] he told me don't do this instead to open
[27:02] it and look inside and I did that and
[27:04] now I had an understanding of oh this is
[27:06] a Vel this is driving this thing forward
[27:09] this can happen I took out the wheels
[27:11] took out a toothpaste cardboard box put
[27:14] a few holes in it and put the wheel on
[27:16] the back side and in the front what I
[27:18] did is I just made holes horizontally
[27:21] right not not horiz diagonally sorry but
[27:23] it's on an angle and I put front wheels
[27:26] there so you can imagine the rear wheel
[27:29] is like correctly aligned but the front
[27:31] wheel is slightly on an angle yeah and I
[27:34] let it run it goes around and around and
[27:36] that makes give me happiness and now I'm
[27:38] like about six years old right and I'm
[27:41] this curious annoying kid like amazingly
[27:45] annoying kid I am I'm not even right now
[27:48] I'm not comfortable in a
[27:50] world where I don't know how things work
[27:52] around me I look around me and I see
[27:54] something I know how it works or I want
[27:57] to know how it works there's just two M
[28:00] grounds I cannot ignore it so now I'm
[28:01] asking my father how does this light
[28:03] bulb Works how does this fan works how
[28:05] does this work and my father has a
[28:08] background in diploma in industrial
[28:10] Electronics so he knows Electronics a
[28:12] lot very well and so imagine a
[28:15] six-year-old asking you how does the fan
[28:18] work most people would respond oh you
[28:20] press the button the electricity goes de
[28:22] and it makes the fan run my father
[28:25] starts with okay that is a induction
[28:29] motor wow I'm a sixy old okay keep that
[28:32] in mind my father starts there it's an
[28:34] induction motor it requires two coils
[28:36] starter coil Running Co starter callil
[28:37] requires face different this that and
[28:40] I'm like oh my God all of that goes over
[28:42] my head but I just listen to it because
[28:43] it's fun to listen to and just he did
[28:46] that he kept doing that for seven year
[28:48] old seven eight years old 9 years old I
[28:50] kept asking questions and he kept
[28:52] explaining me the most detail for any
[28:55] equipment I had at home and then for I
[28:57] think my 10th birthday he gifted me
[28:59] screwdriver set and applier set and
[29:01] everything and he taught me how to open
[29:03] things and solder things and to
[29:05] basically play with it now I wanted to
[29:08] build things I knew a lot about how
[29:10] things worked a lot like in limit but
[29:13] still a lot but I didn't have Parts how
[29:15] do I get parts so what I started doing
[29:17] is I started salvaging parts from
[29:20] electronics that was not working but
[29:22] also from electronic it was still
[29:24] working and I us to listen a lot and now
[29:27] I would go around the V
[29:28] asking people do you have appliances
[29:31] that are not working anymore and they
[29:33] would say yes I would just ask them to
[29:34] give it to me I'll bring it home
[29:36] dismantle it remove the parts and play
[29:39] with it right build something I would
[29:42] build F flops I would build a simple
[29:45] resistor sh resistors I would simple bit
[29:47] curent consumptions like very simple
[29:49] stuff but that was very complex for me
[29:51] back then right so I kept doing that and
[29:55] by the time I was in class 10th I was
[29:57] going out of my father's knowledge range
[30:00] right like even he has limits but I was
[30:03] asking more Advan question now like
[30:04] black holes and God parles and how does
[30:06] the Big Bang happens of so he got so he
[30:10] asked to take admission this one school
[30:12] which is very famous school about 14 km
[30:15] from here from this Village and there he
[30:18] took me straight to the library and he
[30:19] told the librarian if you have
[30:21] encyclopedias give all of it to this kid
[30:24] right in my school I was the first kid
[30:27] to actually take out the encyclopedia
[30:28] out of the covers okay and I read all
[30:32] the encyclopedias in about 3 weeks all
[30:34] of it I just went through the like it
[30:36] was like food for me I would not eat but
[30:39] I would read it so kept building this
[30:42] knowledge base and by this time by the
[30:44] time I almost I was writing my 10th exam
[30:46] everybody in this Village knew what crit
[30:48] I was choosing because again I was going
[30:50] to their house asking them if you have
[30:52] to me so all of them knew and even right
[30:54] now I have not been in my Village for
[30:56] past 6 years but if you have asked
[30:58] anybody while I was not here that do you
[31:01] know what he's doing and they don't know
[31:03] me like they have not contacted me after
[31:04] I left my Village they would still say
[31:06] he's probably doing engineering because
[31:08] that's what he would be doing then and
[31:11] then after 10th I went to Bangalore and
[31:13] then Banger was a different world for me
[31:16] I had access to Internet mobile phone
[31:18] and I had access to actual Electronics
[31:20] arduno boards and I could finally let
[31:23] the demons lose and start building like
[31:26] crazy and I did that I learned C coding
[31:29] not because it was taught to me I
[31:31] learned coing because I wanted to
[31:33] program and Howard you know I learned
[31:35] all of my knowledge comes from a need of
[31:37] building something I want to build
[31:39] something how do I build it even machine
[31:40] learning I got into machine learning
[31:42] because I was building robots by the
[31:44] time in college first year I was in
[31:46] college first year and I was building
[31:48] robots at the time and I wanted to give
[31:50] Vision to my robots I wanted them to to
[31:53] be able to see so how do I give Vision
[31:55] to my robots comp Vision what is
[31:57] computer vision it's a type of machine
[31:59] learning so that's how I got into
[32:02] machine learning and so all of this can
[32:04] be blamed on one factor that is my
[32:06] undying
[32:08] curiosity and I have 100% of what I had
[32:11] when I was six year old or when I was
[32:13] one year old today if I'm in a room
[32:16] where I see something that I don't know
[32:17] how it works I'm not comfortable I want
[32:19] to know how it works I have to know how
[32:21] it works right it gets annoying for most
[32:24] people but that's the reason I respect
[32:26] my father so much because it's not easy
[32:29] to raise someone like me right and
[32:32] that's the reason I give him so much
[32:35] value so much I remember when I was when
[32:37] I started making money I was like I will
[32:39] buy you things right I was like I went
[32:41] to my father and I buy you things I will
[32:42] give you money now so yeah that's how my
[32:46] career was decided it was not something
[32:48] that I had to sit down and think about
[32:50] it was very natural to me from a very
[32:52] early age I knew I was going there
[32:54] because I just love this engineering is
[32:56] this process of understanding the
[32:57] fundamentals of Science and then
[32:59] applying it and that's my passion so and
[33:03] he doinga that every day and I can
[33:05] totally relate to it um I thly enjoyed
[33:10] everything that you said
[33:12] AE and just so you
[33:15] can feel why I was all excited because I
[33:20] had a similar type of life back then
[33:23] when I was in Middle School and High
[33:25] School I would open different
[33:30] toys and I think the first one was there
[33:34] was a Quil that you have a chabi and
[33:38] then you turn and then so you see that
[33:41] have a key and then when you open that
[33:43] coil will get loose cut loose and then
[33:47] there's no way you can set it back yeah
[33:49] oh my God my hands my hand still have
[33:52] signs of cuts from those qu so that and
[33:56] then fish radio
[33:59] transistor my mom's appliances just any
[34:02] of the electronic material and I think
[34:05] the risest thing that I have done was
[34:08] opening the TV and if you
[34:11] remember back then TV was that CRT
[34:14] screen it was not like a flat screen and
[34:18] those those screen even if you unplug
[34:22] they have a huge capacitor they have
[34:24] huge that CRT has enough po power to
[34:28] kill
[34:29] you and I learn that hard way trust me I
[34:34] have a burn sign because of that so I
[34:36] also learned the hard I I I told you I
[34:39] have learned all of that the hardware
[34:41] all of that I got I have got shots from
[34:43] like 440 volts of current I have gotten
[34:46] shocks from Life Main's power was like
[34:48] everyday thing for me I I sometimes I'm
[34:51] surprised how I been alive like the
[34:54] things I have done by far I should have
[34:56] been but yeah yeah so so just to share
[35:00] that how we
[35:02] we we share that passion and then
[35:06] there's something happen and that
[35:07] probably something that you could you
[35:09] your father Pro already taught you that
[35:13] my son when he was like two or three
[35:15] years old he started asking some of the
[35:18] engineering question and my first
[35:19] instinct was to build something like
[35:23] that you probably want to pursue your
[35:25] engineering
[35:26] career and and then once you you will
[35:29] gain all that knowledge once you finish
[35:32] engineering but I did not say that I
[35:33] immediately stopped myself said I am an
[35:37] engineer and I have not learned these
[35:39] type of thing to do what he was talking
[35:43] about he was talking about how we can
[35:47] create something where there is a one
[35:50] person in this room can use this power
[35:53] line to transfer just like electricity
[35:56] to another city another place right it
[35:59] was he was just 3 four years old and he
[36:02] was having this kind of idea yeah and I
[36:04] did not
[36:05] say whether or not this can be done or
[36:08] whether he my first instinct was
[36:11] engineering but it said stop so I I
[36:14] answer a few questions and then I have a
[36:18] friend who is
[36:20] scientist so I called him and then have
[36:25] them talk and we three spoke and then
[36:28] that idea went multiple iteration it
[36:32] doesn't matter where that go but
[36:34] it's he get an idea that if whatever is
[36:38] the idea just keep thinking about it you
[36:40] don't have to stop and that a week later
[36:43] he has a different idea but I did not
[36:45] ask him you have to wait 20 years to to
[36:50] do your engineering and then only you
[36:52] can think about it right so I think your
[36:56] father has done
[36:58] tremendous to give you a practice that
[37:01] whenever there is an idea you are
[37:03] allowed to think about it you allowed to
[37:05] go deeper into it and then go up to next
[37:09] idea and
[37:10] something the part is I'm very conscious
[37:13] about that I know that he has done after
[37:17] stepping out of here especially meeting
[37:19] other people in my college and people
[37:21] around other friends and stuff I realize
[37:24] how big of a gift I have received from
[37:28] my own
[37:29] family that like I'm here today I'm and
[37:32] when I say I'm here I'm not like very
[37:34] accomplished in terms of the amount of
[37:35] money I'm making or whatever that does
[37:37] not matter when I say I'm here I'm in a
[37:40] position where I can like my
[37:44] imagination does not sign sound like
[37:47] fiction anymore right my imagination is
[37:49] not Fiction it's just formulas that I
[37:52] have still not derived simple right and
[37:56] this idea that okay every idea that you
[37:58] have in your mind is just formula that
[38:00] you have still not derived comes from my
[38:02] father and that is I think the biggest
[38:05] gift I've have received from him he has
[38:06] done a lot of other things for me like
[38:08] every father does I'm sure you are doing
[38:10] it for your kids and I'm sure other
[38:12] fathers do it for their kids but this is
[38:15] the biggest gift that he could have
[38:17] given to me that today every idea I get
[38:20] I'm like okay I don't know how to do
[38:21] this but I also know that this is just a
[38:24] formula that I have not yet arrived but
[38:26] I can yeah one day or someday or that
[38:29] just
[38:30] depends wow so that was a powerful
[38:33] question to ask you how did you decide
[38:36] to do engineering we went really deep
[38:39] into everything that has built and the
[38:44] foundation for who ake is and why ake do
[38:49] things the way he does things right so
[38:52] that I thank you for sharing all that
[38:54] insight and I'm glad that I asked ask
[38:57] you that question moving next I want to
[39:00] ask once you was done with your
[39:03] engineering or before I guess I'm asking
[39:07] when you started the professional career
[39:10] until now what are the thing that has
[39:12] worked really well for you and how do
[39:16] you see yourself from the point you
[39:19] started working professionally to where
[39:22] you are now I think number one should be
[39:25] getting hurt I think that has worked
[39:29] like the most for you but I don't think
[39:31] that is a good answer so I'll try to
[39:33] give a good answer all right and the
[39:35] right answer from my perspective at
[39:36] least the thing is this all of this
[39:39] background that I gave you in the
[39:40] previous section this background comes
[39:42] with a downall and regardless of how we
[39:46] are taught about humility in the
[39:47] classical Indian families the concept of
[39:50] humility is not exactly easy to give
[39:54] your kids at least at a young when I was
[39:58] about 14 or so 13 or 14 I was at
[40:01] probably the most arrogant point of my
[40:03] life when I looked back at my 14-year
[40:05] old self I cringe out I'm like I was
[40:07] that right but I was so I was this kid
[40:12] who knew about Electronics really well
[40:15] so I knew what are sizes stores I knew
[40:17] how to create clip flops I knew how to
[40:19] create memory I could create like one
[40:21] two bit of memory on a breadboard in
[40:23] front of your eyes when I was 13 year
[40:25] old and keep that in mind that till that
[40:27] time I didn't have access to Internet so
[40:29] I did not have the I could just Google
[40:31] things I could not do that so I had this
[40:34] sense of achievement that I have learned
[40:36] all this and this is my achievement and
[40:39] furthermore I had knowledge of more
[40:41] physics quantum physics astrophysics uh
[40:44] all of this and then a good
[40:46] understanding of literature I'm still
[40:48] good at literature but at the time for
[40:51] my age I was really good at literature
[40:53] at reading poems I I was good at
[40:54] Sanskrit I was reading good at reading
[40:56] Sanskrit and
[40:58] so basically I thought that okay I'm
[41:00] like this good I deserve to be treated
[41:04] as an Elight right like Elite or what
[41:07] however you pronounce it like an elite
[41:09] somehow and and a 14y old it makes sense
[41:12] right like you have more let's say
[41:14] information I would not say knowledge I
[41:16] would say information but and that
[41:19] somehow inside this arrogant personality
[41:21] and you that okay you deserve to be
[41:22] treated from what and I was at that
[41:26] stage of life
[41:28] and in my class 10th nobody knew me
[41:31] nobody in my school nobody had any idea
[41:33] who I was I was the best student at
[41:36] speaking English in my whole school in
[41:38] class time okay even better than most of
[41:41] the teachers and why this is back by
[41:44] data by the way I'll give you the data
[41:45] later why I'm saying this but and I knew
[41:49] that I was this student and I thought I
[41:50] should be treated specially because of
[41:52] this but my school didn't care and the
[41:55] word didn't care and my other people of
[41:57] my Village didn't care and at my own
[42:00] home I was treated like a I was still a
[42:02] kid right and it kept happening in class
[42:06] 10 and then at the end of class 10
[42:07] there's something called as ASL
[42:09] assessment of speaking and listening
[42:11] where our school was looking
[42:13] for people who could speak very good
[42:16] English right and then they chose the
[42:19] people who were popular with the
[42:22] teachers and with other students and I
[42:25] was obviously not chosen because I was
[42:26] still in this or arrogant face where I
[42:28] should be teacher better I should be
[42:29] special people should come to me and ask
[42:31] me right why should I answer to this why
[42:34] should I I was in that terrible State
[42:36] and then this a starts happening and I
[42:39] was talking to one of I had few friends
[42:41] I don't know how they tolerated me at
[42:43] that stage but I had few friends and I
[42:45] think they were my friend because they
[42:46] were also interested in physics and
[42:48] stuff so we could discuss high level
[42:50] physics and I was discussing it was I
[42:52] think lunch time and I was discussing
[42:54] this physic concept of a neutron star
[42:57] with one of my friends and which is my
[42:59] habit when I I'm talking in any language
[43:02] if I get really excited about a topic I
[43:03] start speaking in English because
[43:05] English is very simple to speak compared
[43:07] to our languages Hindi and other
[43:09] languages right so I just transition
[43:12] into English and I just kept talking
[43:14] about neutron star in English while a
[43:16] passing by teacher heard me right and he
[43:19] immediately picked me for this and he
[43:21] like okay you should go for as so he was
[43:24] I was picked and then the school gets to
[43:28] realize that I am better at English
[43:31] speaking than any student in my school
[43:34] at the time and when I was picked I got
[43:37] that special treatment that I wanted I
[43:39] got a special treatment and at the time
[43:41] my arrogance was fueled so my fire had
[43:45] the patrol in it it was done everything
[43:47] was done everything was achieved at that
[43:50] point I should have gotten satisfaction
[43:52] but what I got was
[43:55] loneliness I didn't have satis action I
[43:58] had loneliness it was a very weird place
[44:00] where I felt like you have you have
[44:02] those sayings that it's very lonely at
[44:04] the top and I like to tell myself that I
[44:07] felt that Lonely at the Top
[44:10] thingy but one of my friends came to me
[44:13] and he told me why don't like you
[44:15] because and he gave me an instant
[44:17] example of something I had done like 10
[44:19] minutes ago he said you answered that
[44:21] question about the gamma radiation that
[44:23] was correct but that the way you
[44:26] answered it the way I answered it I
[44:28] still remember I was like have you even
[44:30] read about it do you know what GMA is
[44:32] that was my phone have you even read
[44:34] about it do you even know what GMA is do
[44:36] you know how that was my way of talking
[44:38] and he said do you realize that even if
[44:41] you're the most knowable person in the
[44:42] room nobody will come ask you for things
[44:45] if that is the way you make other people
[44:47] feel right information can be remembered
[44:50] and forgotten the way you made somebody
[44:53] feel they will never so that happened
[44:56] and I went into this this deep thinking
[44:58] mod where I like this is what I was
[44:59] doing wrong in my life and then I try to
[45:02] get to the point where if somebody
[45:05] treated me the way I treat other people
[45:07] how would I feel and then I saw that
[45:10] person whom I had replied to with that
[45:12] bad tone that do you know about gar
[45:14] Edition I saw him play football and he
[45:17] was amazing at football right so I knew
[45:21] that this person had once feel better
[45:23] than I had he was better than me in at
[45:26] least one thing and I had no right to
[45:29] treat myself as an elite in front of him
[45:33] he was my fear I was doing a discussion
[45:36] I was not enlightening him right and
[45:40] this realization was somewhat of it it
[45:43] also comes from my personality the
[45:44] upbringing my upbringing was very
[45:45] spiritual and so this kind of hit like I
[45:48] have done I have done a bad thing with
[45:51] my life by far like past one two years
[45:53] of my life that I have been arrogant it
[45:54] has been terrible and I talked about
[45:57] this I told my father if this happened
[45:59] and he said oh my God like how can like
[46:01] arrogance he said we have a lot of
[46:03] problems in this family but arrogance is
[46:04] not one to that and and then he told me
[46:07] the difference between arrogance and
[46:09] self-confidence and how it varies and
[46:12] stuff but from that point on time 10th
[46:15] happened and then I had this like long
[46:16] vacation period and then in class 11 I
[46:19] was in terms of this I was a completely
[46:21] change person I would still talk about I
[46:23] would still share my knowledge but the
[46:25] way I would do it would be different I
[46:26] would like do you know that there's this
[46:28] star out there and it's so fun like I
[46:31] you would enjoy this I think you would
[46:33] like this topic you should read about it
[46:35] I would like I'll take interest in the
[46:36] next ver I would say oh you you seem
[46:39] like a person who would take interest in
[46:41] astrophysics and this makes the next
[46:43] person feel intelligent the next person
[46:45] feels like oh it considers me
[46:47] intelligent enough to read astrophysics
[46:50] and in class 11th I suddenly became
[46:52] really Bish like I I was at the point
[46:55] that in class 12th I was conduced all
[46:57] the events I was hosting all the events
[46:59] and all those things and I was I started
[47:02] actually getting that El light treatment
[47:04] and feeling loved by friends around me
[47:07] right so I was at the top but not lonely
[47:10] I was at the top with other my friends
[47:12] and all of them with me there so that is
[47:17] something which I think I I had to tell
[47:20] here that this was necessary that this
[47:23] happened and then comes the engineering
[47:26] where I gave disc continued I
[47:30] just started till 12th I didn't have um
[47:34] any achievements to show for and then
[47:37] the second realization came after 12th
[47:39] before Engineering in first year of
[47:41] engineering where now I I had love of
[47:45] friends I had knowledge and information
[47:48] right but I was
[47:51] still not considered for opinions at
[47:56] home or out side so at college or
[47:58] something was happening right if I told
[48:00] okay I knew that the answer to solving
[48:03] that problem in the lab is to just
[48:05] update the driver I would tell them that
[48:07] please update the driver they would not
[48:09] listen to me why would they I'm just
[48:11] another student trying to you know act
[48:12] smart in their eyes at least and I
[48:15] realized that all of your
[48:17] knowledge at least all of my knowledge
[48:20] was of no use until I had achievements
[48:22] to provide evidence for because not
[48:24] everybody can sit down and test it for
[48:26] themselves and not everybody should be
[48:27] able to do that so I thought okay I need
[48:31] to work on work toward things and at the
[48:34] time I was still in the achievements
[48:35] mindset so I would set goals in terms of
[48:37] I want to achieve this I want to achieve
[48:39] this and that's when I started
[48:41] participating and trying to GA
[48:43] achievements for myself in first year I
[48:45] participated in this hackathon simple
[48:46] hackathon colge level few colle were
[48:49] there and only four students were
[48:51] allowed I was a first year student so I
[48:53] went there requested the organizers
[48:56] please let me in
[48:57] and first year students had have to wear
[48:59] uh uniform so I was the only student on
[49:01] stage in uniform right when the results
[49:04] of the hackathon was announced I was the
[49:06] only
[49:07] winner so it was basically the start of
[49:10] how lecturers got to know about me and
[49:12] now I was suddenly someone in college
[49:14] from a no one to someone in college in
[49:16] in in the eyes of lecturers and stuff
[49:18] and then just that kept up I started a
[49:20] club le le a club learned and taught
[49:23] machine learning and then went on to win
[49:26] s one of the biggest achievements any
[49:28] student can achieve in India so when out
[49:30] of that happened by the time of third
[49:32] year when I got my first internship as a
[49:34] data science in turn I had all the
[49:37] evidence to provide for what I have done
[49:40] by far in my life I had footprint in my
[49:42] college journey in before that after
[49:44] that and then I took this data science
[49:47] job where I was like okay I enjoy
[49:48] playing with numbers and data science
[49:50] seems like the right career for me and
[49:53] it was very simple when you decided I
[49:54] just considered three things what is
[49:57] something that I like doing what is
[49:59] something that is hard to do and what is
[50:01] something that makes money so if you
[50:03] make a v diagram and I have made this wi
[50:05] diagram before so the intersection
[50:07] between is my ideal career choice right
[50:10] and there were
[50:12] two candidates which were on top machine
[50:15] learning and iot internet of things but
[50:18] at the time internet of things made less
[50:21] money than machine learning did and that
[50:24] was basically the reason I chose machine
[50:26] like okay I'll choose machine learning
[50:27] instead of iot and that's how I chose
[50:30] this career of machine learning kept
[50:32] kept T it and then after six months of
[50:35] internship they asked me to become
[50:37] fulltime and I told them okay I'm in
[50:39] college and I cannot uh do full-time
[50:41] because it's not legally allowed they
[50:43] told me okay you can keep on paper we'll
[50:46] write it as an inter but start taking
[50:48] responsibilities at company and we will
[50:50] pay you more that was the understanding
[50:51] with pis and I started doing that
[50:54] actually by the end of so when I was was
[50:56] graduating when I was writing my final
[50:58] year exam I was also the in charge of
[51:01] data department at my company doing
[51:03] meetings with other companies and
[51:05] pulling up deals wor like $40,000
[51:09] $50,000 at once so both of the
[51:12] responsibility was going side by side
[51:14] and then College ended and then I kept
[51:17] working with data scientist and then in
[51:19] November so some my work demographics
[51:22] had changed a little and my interest was
[51:25] going so I found my myself bringing up
[51:28] large language models and a more
[51:30] advanced algorithms into my work so I
[51:34] realized that wherever I did not even
[51:36] need large language models I was
[51:37] bringing up large language models which
[51:39] gave me the hint that I really want to
[51:41] get into large language models which is
[51:44] side side so I quit my job right I gave
[51:48] a resignation without any plan without
[51:52] thinking anything I didn't have a job I
[51:53] didn't have an offer I didn't even knew
[51:55] much of yeah I just quit my job studied
[51:59] AI for a month in December and January I
[52:02] joined another company as a Flay
[52:04] Engineers started writing I from
[52:07] engineering and deploying edic models
[52:09] and stuff so yeah that was my long
[52:13] journey by F this is good you covered
[52:16] many thing did you finish uh I thought
[52:19] you were saying about something about
[52:21] opinion within the work environment no
[52:24] it was not the work environment it was
[52:25] just
[52:27] that I would let's say if I would bring
[52:30] up something for example in my college
[52:31] lab I give an example if my college lab
[52:34] some device the my device was not
[52:36] working and I knew that to make it work
[52:40] they just had to update the drivers okay
[52:42] right I gave that opinion that okay
[52:44] listen to me updated driver and they
[52:46] would not listen to me because I didn't
[52:48] have any evidence to show for it that I
[52:50] why am qualified to give this opinion so
[52:53] that's the that's what motivated me to
[52:55] go for achievements
[52:57] so that my opinions are heard so that
[52:59] people know that these opinions are
[53:01] backed by evidence right okay that was
[53:04] the got it got it got it and if you have
[53:07] to pick one or two thing that has helped
[53:10] you in last two years the most what
[53:13] would be okay first would be time
[53:14] management so the way I do time
[53:16] management and this I have learned from
[53:18] a video I said right few references but
[53:20] this I learned from a t to the way I
[53:21] manage time is I agregate every task
[53:25] that I perform I have to perform into
[53:28] either of three categories P career
[53:32] relationships or
[53:33] self and if there's a task that does not
[53:36] qualify to be in any of these three then
[53:39] I should not be doing it I started doing
[53:42] it and it has done wonders for me
[53:46] Absolut wonders for me for example as
[53:48] soon as I I find myself doing something
[53:51] that I want to do something I
[53:52] immediately think which of these three
[53:54] categories this should go in right does
[53:57] it go in my career does it help or
[53:58] Propel my career no does it help my
[54:00] relationships with my family with my
[54:02] friends with my any anybody in my life
[54:05] for that matter no does it help myself
[54:09] does it bring me mental peace or
[54:11] physical peace or improves my health no
[54:15] then it should not be done that has been
[54:17] by far my B so every time for example I
[54:20] have to go with my friends where does
[54:21] the time come from I have allotted
[54:24] certain time relationship stuff right so
[54:28] when I'm with my friends I'm present I'm
[54:30] not on my phone scrolling there have
[54:32] been instances where I'm sitting on a
[54:34] table my phone is nowhere to be seen but
[54:37] everyone else is on their phones and I'm
[54:38] like guys this is not right right so
[54:41] this happens painful career I know that
[54:45] again most of my time I allot to my
[54:46] career and this like for example I'm
[54:50] taking a course I know this is helpful
[54:52] for my career I'm watching anime this is
[54:54] for my mental peace this comes in I'm
[54:57] watching a course this comes in my
[54:58] career I am calling a friend this comes
[55:01] in relationships I'm calling my mother
[55:02] this comes in relationships right all of
[55:05] the things I perform on a daily basis
[55:07] comes in either of these three
[55:08] categories if it does not it should not
[55:10] be done I have followed this for the
[55:12] past two years and this has worked
[55:14] wonders for me right and this is
[55:17] probably this is basically my whole time
[55:19] management strategy it's simple if a
[55:22] task does not come in these three
[55:23] categories it should not be done and
[55:26] that has basically been my D management
[55:28] strategy and that is also the first
[55:30] thing that has drastically changed my
[55:32] life in past J I have been able to learn
[55:35] more things I I learned how to play you
[55:38] C I learned basically all of AI stuff I
[55:41] learned I also learn how to uh drive a
[55:44] car I got my license pretty recently and
[55:47] so I have been able to learn a lot of
[55:49] stuff and also go on trips talk to my
[55:53] friends be be more present with my
[55:55] friends and stuff I been able to do all
[55:57] that because of this simple strategy so
[55:59] this is first thing that has worked
[56:00] Wonder for me and if I were to choose
[56:02] the second thing I picked machine
[56:05] learning and some people when they visit
[56:09] my hostel room when they visited my
[56:11] hostel room back in the day or when they
[56:13] visit my place now where I live they ask
[56:17] me even only one question why are you
[56:20] not an electronics engineer or why are
[56:22] you not a robotic engineer because if
[56:24] you literally see my room if you have
[56:26] seen my hosle room there was a corner of
[56:29] the room that was full of electronics
[56:31] and a table a workbench and a soering
[56:34] iron stuff
[56:35] right and this thing when I chose
[56:37] machine learning as my career using that
[56:39] V diagram that I explained earlier I
[56:42] also did another thing I chose
[56:45] electronics and Robotics for that matter
[56:48] as my primary hobby so how I like to
[56:52] give and this is very personal this is
[56:54] very personal thing how I like to to
[56:56] visualize this is I take my energy in
[56:59] form of a pencil and when I work I am
[57:03] using that pencil but when you use a
[57:05] pencil it becomes Bland right so I'm
[57:08] using this pencil it becomes Bland it's
[57:10] not usable anymore the hobby my primary
[57:14] hobby is a
[57:15] sharpness I use my primary hobby to
[57:17] recharge myself and my primary hobby is
[57:20] building Electronics I sit down I forget
[57:23] about everything just sometimes I'll
[57:24] play music I'm an audio I like to love
[57:26] to listen to music a lot I'll play music
[57:28] and I'll just build something almost
[57:31] every day I build one project on that
[57:33] day I'll build it I'll just look at it
[57:37] work it's very fun to look at
[57:38] Electronics Project work and then I'll
[57:41] just disassemble it and keep things
[57:43] aside I will not take a photo I will not
[57:45] post about it I will not post my prodct
[57:47] sometimes I'll do for few things most
[57:49] things I'll not post about it it's not
[57:51] something that I'm keeping as a career I
[57:53] if you bring making money or forceful
[57:56] development into something it becomes
[57:59] something of a liability right than an
[58:01] asset and this is my primary asset this
[58:04] is something that pulls me out of Dark
[58:06] Places and everybody gets ups and downs
[58:08] in their lives Electronics is something
[58:11] that I use to just go through things
[58:13] right and this is just this has worked
[58:16] wonders for me like this have kept I
[58:18] know I'm not going to use this as a
[58:20] source of income I'm not going to use
[58:21] this as a career this is just for fun no
[58:24] pressure at all I start building some
[58:26] something I have not completed for three
[58:27] months no pressure nobody's there to ask
[58:30] me why I have not completed it and that
[58:33] is just wonderful I sit down build St
[58:37] that it's just fun I get the dopamine
[58:39] hit I just get the sertin in Hit and
[58:41] then I'm just fine this work and then I
[58:43] keep it aside so that is the second
[58:44] thing yeah having a primary hobby that I
[58:47] absolutely love helps me in basically
[58:50] maintaining my
[58:51] energy wow this was good this was good
[58:56] vure I'm using gardening as that fuel
[59:00] right now that is awesome my brother
[59:01] uses gardening and he's very cool atate
[59:04] so I find gardening hard personally so a
[59:08] lot of respect to you because if you're
[59:10] doing it I know you'll become if you're
[59:12] not trying you yet good you become good
[59:15] gardening is fun because again you see
[59:18] the physical results of these things
[59:20] right like you grow
[59:23] something it's fun I know there is yeah
[59:26] there's a Monera plant inside the house
[59:30] and for about a week and half a new Leaf
[59:34] is coming and so pleasant so exciting to
[59:39] just see that every single day it grow a
[59:42] bit more this is great A we are about an
[59:45] hour so let's bring it to a close I
[59:49] guess we can keep talking for an entire
[59:52] day so many great topic but I feel like
[59:56] so
[59:57] connected that it's like my story
[1:00:00] there's so many thing that completely
[1:00:03] resonating with my way of living or
[1:00:06] something that I have done so it's
[1:00:09] incredible so I wanted to take this to a
[1:00:14] closer by asking last three questions is
[1:00:17] there anything that I have not asked but
[1:00:20] you would like to include in this
[1:00:21] interview I would like to just include a
[1:00:24] very small factors it's it's the why and
[1:00:27] you have talk about it actually but we
[1:00:29] did not talk in this context and and
[1:00:32] bring it in this context so when I was
[1:00:34] in my hostel I used to wake up at 5:00
[1:00:36] a.m. every day in the boys hostel it's a
[1:00:39] rare event to be honest that's
[1:00:41] somebody's waking up at 5:00 a.m. and
[1:00:43] people would ask me like how can you
[1:00:46] wake up at 5:00 a.m. right or how can
[1:00:49] you
[1:00:50] finish 6 hours of lecture in a day or
[1:00:52] how can you study for six hours a day
[1:00:55] and I used for machine learning I used
[1:00:57] to like I I think I started basically
[1:01:00] toxically for about 3 4 months for
[1:01:03] machine
[1:01:04] learning and that comes from this strong
[1:01:07] VI very strong V and this thing is I
[1:01:10] think everybody in their
[1:01:12] life they should not force a why
[1:01:14] everybody has a why if they don't know
[1:01:17] it yet they should try to find it and if
[1:01:20] they already know their why if they know
[1:01:22] they have found it then they should
[1:01:25] understand and how important it is for
[1:01:28] me it was my mother's health my mother
[1:01:30] always struggled with health issues so
[1:01:32] so I come from a farmer family right we
[1:01:36] had everything other than money we had
[1:01:38] political power we had a lot of food lot
[1:01:40] of food but somehow we we never had man
[1:01:44] and my mother struggled with health
[1:01:45] issue because in lack of
[1:01:47] money and before leaving this place
[1:01:50] before leaving here I remember there was
[1:01:52] a day when I was studying for my 10th
[1:01:54] class exam and I'm sitting exactly where
[1:01:56] I'm sitting right now and like in front
[1:01:58] of me is the bed so in front of directly
[1:02:01] in front of me is the bed and my mother
[1:02:02] is on the bed as he's basically crawling
[1:02:06] in pain on the bed like absolutely
[1:02:09] crawling in pain it was like M
[1:02:11] experience I saw it happen I heard the
[1:02:13] doctor say that if you don't do
[1:02:16] something very quickly she will not
[1:02:17] survive this he had a very terrible
[1:02:20] infection and abdomin
[1:02:22] isia the doctor said that if you don't
[1:02:24] do something quickly you'll not survive
[1:02:26] my father did all he put He got money
[1:02:29] make for all of the savings and stuff
[1:02:31] and send her for treatment with me and
[1:02:33] that's how I went to Bangalore actually
[1:02:35] that was the reason and I went there and
[1:02:37] her treatment had to be dist she
[1:02:39] improved a bit and then she and my
[1:02:42] father they both decided that they will
[1:02:45] pause the treatment because of my
[1:02:46] studies and I did not know it at the
[1:02:48] time but they didn't because of my study
[1:02:51] my study need money and I got to know
[1:02:55] this one year later right when I was
[1:02:58] trying to get education loan I studied
[1:03:00] on education loan one year later I was
[1:03:02] trying to get an education loan and at
[1:03:03] the time I knew that they have done this
[1:03:05] for my sake and this have learned from
[1:03:06] other relat like the why this then I
[1:03:10] found the why right but how did I
[1:03:14] understand the importance of this and
[1:03:15] this comes from a very cous uh incident
[1:03:19] when my father actually here so I'm am
[1:03:22] there in Bangalore and my father is here
[1:03:23] so these two I'm in Bihar right so I was
[1:03:25] in my father was in biad and I'm in
[1:03:27] bangr my father is in a bank who talk
[1:03:30] about education loan and he calls me to
[1:03:33] ask me some detail and then my father
[1:03:35] has the Habit to just keep the phone and
[1:03:37] he'll not disconnected before keeping
[1:03:38] the phone and he expect the other person
[1:03:40] to disconnect it he just kept the ph and
[1:03:42] he kept talking and I forgot to
[1:03:43] disconnected I just then I fed up my
[1:03:45] phone and thought it's still connected
[1:03:46] so I thought I'll just hear what was
[1:03:48] going on because it was about my ucation
[1:03:50] room so I hear my father say with the
[1:03:53] bank manager he was saying that
[1:03:56] so he said that in Hindi but I just
[1:03:58] translate English he he was saying
[1:04:01] that we were not able to
[1:04:06] provide enough
[1:04:08] resources for how bright our kid was if
[1:04:12] we had enough money then I kid would be
[1:04:16] on television and you know working in a
[1:04:19] foreign company or something by today
[1:04:23] his and this is my father talking about
[1:04:25] about me and I just overhear it on the
[1:04:27] call right and he's saying that he's the
[1:04:30] most brilliant child I have known in my
[1:04:31] dad life I have seen a lot of kids and
[1:04:34] he's the most brilliant kid I know he's
[1:04:36] very good with computers he's very good
[1:04:38] with electronics he learns things very
[1:04:40] quickly and he's very regressive he does
[1:04:42] not give a phone play he's talking about
[1:04:45] and I heard all of that and when I was
[1:04:47] done with it how could I afford to not
[1:04:50] prove him right I had to prove him right
[1:04:53] and that was my strong why that's what w
[1:04:57] woke me up every day at 5: a. that's
[1:04:59] what made me 30 for 7 hours every day
[1:05:02] that's what maybe like people ask me
[1:05:04] like how do you get a remote job and I I
[1:05:07] tell them like very tough to get a
[1:05:09] remote job and we need a lot of effort
[1:05:11] and stuff how can I not if I'm with this
[1:05:14] environment how can I not and that's
[1:05:16] strong why this is not this motivation
[1:05:19] was not going anywhere if I if my
[1:05:22] motivation are like oh I have to buy an
[1:05:23] iPad I have to buy an I I can have to
[1:05:25] afford a buy
[1:05:26] it could go up and down this was not
[1:05:28] going to be anywhere this still stays
[1:05:30] with me every time I I'm studying
[1:05:32] something I'm doing good I like I feel
[1:05:34] proud I'm like I'm moving my father
[1:05:36] right every day and that is my strong
[1:05:38] body that is again still
[1:05:41] today if something that's propelling me
[1:05:44] like really fast and really forward this
[1:05:48] why but I think everybody out there
[1:05:51] should find their V and then understand
[1:05:55] the importance of their why that why
[1:05:58] should why they should do this why they
[1:06:01] have to do this kind of stuff basically
[1:06:04] so yeah that is sorry for
[1:06:10] that
[1:06:13] and actually you will be nonstop
[1:06:16] Unstoppable Have you listened to that
[1:06:18] song but anytime I need energy I just go
[1:06:21] and listen to that song
[1:06:24] Unstoppable by yeah yeah in my gym that
[1:06:27] PR the
[1:06:29] Lord thank you the thing is the good
[1:06:32] part is that was not the only time my
[1:06:34] father my
[1:06:36] father now the world I'm going to say
[1:06:39] the world actually my father what my
[1:06:41] father's his relatives and the people in
[1:06:44] the village today everybody tells him
[1:06:47] how successful his son
[1:06:49] is and that is this is the biggest sense
[1:06:52] of achievement I can have where
[1:06:56] my father knew who I was before anybody
[1:06:59] else knew yes and I prove him right
[1:07:02] every
[1:07:04] day just
[1:07:06] that
[1:07:07] so it be whatever it
[1:07:10] is well I know you probably may or may
[1:07:15] not able to realize and feel this thing
[1:07:20] that for
[1:07:22] him having a son like you is is almost
[1:07:26] like his um biggest achievement is life
[1:07:31] oh no he talks about it he talks
[1:07:34] it parent then you feel you you able to
[1:07:38] realize the other side of the
[1:07:42] feelings this is a small incident but
[1:07:45] some relative again some relative was
[1:07:46] here he was just basically joking about
[1:07:49] how my father is very good at his trade
[1:07:52] but he did not do any job LIF long he
[1:07:54] chose to be a farmer
[1:07:56] he was saying like uh you all with all
[1:07:59] of your knowledge and your wisdom why
[1:08:00] did you still choose to be a farmer and
[1:08:02] my father's reply was my biggest
[1:08:04] achievement is him and I was right there
[1:08:06] I was like oh yeah H he even tells it to
[1:08:09] my face like if somebody calls that your
[1:08:11] father is a farmer tell them that my
[1:08:14] biggest achievement is you so so I'm
[1:08:16] like I tell them don't worry and this
[1:08:19] again sense of achievement was when I
[1:08:21] took my father to my my my parents both
[1:08:23] my father and my mother to my college
[1:08:25] and they talk to the placement talk is
[1:08:27] that the vice principal my HS all of my
[1:08:30] lecturers right and every time they
[1:08:32] would come out of their cabins they
[1:08:34] would come and deers they would like
[1:08:35] they would I have never seen my
[1:08:37] father when his father expired I did not
[1:08:40] see him FR but that day every cabin he
[1:08:42] came out of he was in
[1:08:44] tears and I knew what my reputation is
[1:08:47] in college but seeing that was the real
[1:08:50] sense of satisfaction that yeah this I
[1:08:54] have like the the Deion that I made
[1:08:56] three years ago that I will prove my
[1:08:57] father right about myself I'm able to do
[1:09:00] that at least in Parts if not completely
[1:09:02] till yet but I
[1:09:07] right by the way um not sure if you do
[1:09:10] this or not but if you're not then
[1:09:12] please do this tell your father with
[1:09:16] exact example one thing a time is
[1:09:22] how something that he has done at a
[1:09:25] specific day impacted you in whatever
[1:09:30] ways yeah the very with a very specific
[1:09:33] examples
[1:09:35] yeah
[1:09:37] AED do you have any question for
[1:09:43] me yeah I have have a lot of question
[1:09:46] for you you know that uh but what
[1:09:49] specific one that I wanted to many ask
[1:09:52] is doing what you do I like a lot of
[1:09:56] your post show up on my feed onwi and
[1:09:59] this whole thing and then last time we
[1:10:02] were doing on a meeting you explained to
[1:10:04] me that you have SP the news the the
[1:10:08] funnel the audience funnel right the Le
[1:10:12] Fel doing what you need it requires a
[1:10:15] lot of specificity to point out and as
[1:10:19] someone who grabs a anything mhm how did
[1:10:24] you you said that okay from the past two
[1:10:25] years you have from 2021 you mentioned
[1:10:28] that you have then what how would you
[1:10:31] suggest one to not immediately because
[1:10:35] immediately it's not possible but how
[1:10:37] would you suggest one to try and
[1:10:41] identify their Tel
[1:10:43] Vision in their life let's
[1:10:48] say this
[1:10:50] is great great question and I'm trying
[1:10:53] to see which way should I answer this I
[1:10:57] will just say that my reason behind what
[1:11:00] I'm trying to
[1:11:02] do with writing and coaching and
[1:11:04] everything building
[1:11:06] funnel it will be multiple step answer
[1:11:09] okay just word of warning M when I
[1:11:12] started my software career or when I
[1:11:15] started my career after engineering I
[1:11:18] had a very dark day two years of dark
[1:11:21] tast lost hope h a job
[1:11:26] crappy and then when I found my first
[1:11:28] software job I gave all in like I I
[1:11:33] found my respect back and then for 3
[1:11:36] years I was working night and days and
[1:11:42] when I could not find a job after
[1:11:44] engineering I made myself a promise that
[1:11:46] whatever situation I am in I will not be
[1:11:50] in that situation 5 years from
[1:11:52] now and I think around three and a half
[1:11:56] year later I was working in or maybe
[1:11:58] four year later I was working in the
[1:12:00] fifth largest software development
[1:12:02] company and I had a lot of respect
[1:12:04] around the my technical abilities and
[1:12:07] how I carry out projects and my work
[1:12:11] right then I made another promise that I
[1:12:15] will become a manager and something
[1:12:19] like and I executed it so I so my point
[1:12:23] is I
[1:12:26] have an ability to be a learner and work
[1:12:31] from the state stage state where I have
[1:12:35] nothing to become
[1:12:37] something and U as I was sh sharing the
[1:12:42] T Vis that I have right now was not
[1:12:45] there for any of my side activity but I
[1:12:48] had that for my 9 to5 job at some point
[1:12:51] in 2017 and 19 between 17 and 19
[1:12:57] I went through a Executive
[1:13:01] coaching because after becoming a senior
[1:13:03] manager the next thing for me was a
[1:13:05] becoming a director for the current
[1:13:09] company or another company or go to a
[1:13:11] startup and become CTO whatever right
[1:13:14] there was and I went through that
[1:13:17] Executive coaching where they were
[1:13:19] helping me build executive presence
[1:13:26] in that coaching it was about 8 10 month
[1:13:29] of coaching I did lot of
[1:13:31] journaling you go in these coaching
[1:13:35] thinking they will help you stand the
[1:13:39] right way or dress appropriately like if
[1:13:43] they they will make you an executive
[1:13:45] type person but what really happen is
[1:13:48] they help you go
[1:13:50] introvert and most of the
[1:13:52] answer you will find insight
[1:13:55] so during that coaching 8mon coaching I
[1:14:00] wrote an article that talk
[1:14:03] about I have started XYZ and then how
[1:14:10] I grew it and how I abandoned
[1:14:14] it I started writing that article as a
[1:14:17] negative mindset that I'm somebody who
[1:14:20] would start something spend time and
[1:14:24] quit and then would start something
[1:14:27] else by the time I finished that article
[1:14:31] leure something very prominent happened
[1:14:35] and something very prominent uh that I
[1:14:38] have identified that even though I was
[1:14:41] quitting too many things as I was going
[1:14:45] back to
[1:14:47] writing right and that was a consistent
[1:14:50] theme since
[1:14:52] 200 2006
[1:14:55] that I would start a blog I would start
[1:14:57] a website I would start a book writing a
[1:14:59] book I and then I would stop but then I
[1:15:03] would go back and start it again that
[1:15:05] was one thing that I have restarted like
[1:15:08] nine time in last 20 years plus a award
[1:15:14] that I won in 10th Grade I think in
[1:15:17] impromptu essay writing competition I
[1:15:20] got the gold medal all those got
[1:15:23] connected and I like this is it this is
[1:15:27] where I probably want to go this is my
[1:15:30] inner calling then I started writing
[1:15:33] took my uh medium blog to 150,000 views
[1:15:37] per
[1:15:39] month at that point I said all right now
[1:15:43] I could reach to whatever extent I could
[1:15:46] I need professional help and I think
[1:15:48] this is something that I'm enjoying this
[1:15:50] is something that I can take to the next
[1:15:52] level and I was still thinking in terms
[1:15:54] of number of followers number of views
[1:15:57] and all and I joined ship 3430 I joined
[1:16:01] their advanced class then I got into a
[1:16:04] big group of other writers and in that
[1:16:08] um in that course that actually the
[1:16:12] course was five weeks but then because I
[1:16:15] joined their Advanced program it was
[1:16:17] like lasted a
[1:16:19] year they helped me
[1:16:22] sharpen the right not look at right
[1:16:24] writing as something that you write an
[1:16:28] article or post but they transform that
[1:16:31] into more like a message more like a
[1:16:33] business more like something that you
[1:16:35] can earn from so anyway long story short
[1:16:39] by the end of
[1:16:41] 20121 I realized that I can not only
[1:16:46] make it big I could also convert this
[1:16:49] into a
[1:16:50] business something that I can retire in
[1:16:55] and I should not wait for my retirement
[1:16:57] I should do something I should build
[1:16:59] something now and then leave the job and
[1:17:02] just do this full time anyway because
[1:17:07] of that background because of the
[1:17:11] realization that writing is the ultimate
[1:17:13] thing that I go back to and I enjoy and
[1:17:17] I can make it big I around that time I
[1:17:21] started this quarterly goal setting
[1:17:24] October of 2021 so since then I set a
[1:17:28] goal which is an incremental or bigger
[1:17:31] goal for that quarter where can I take
[1:17:35] this uh uh writing next so sometime I
[1:17:38] would pick a goal to set action goal
[1:17:41] like you were saying that I will send
[1:17:44] one newsletter every week I would do
[1:17:47] these many article and then I will do
[1:17:49] these many
[1:17:51] exercises sometime one quarter I set a
[1:17:54] goal to write a book and I published it
[1:17:56] and then I would go to the
[1:18:00] audience I shown you one of the one of
[1:18:03] the quarterly plan that talk about all
[1:18:05] different things so so the long story
[1:18:08] short I was with I had a background and
[1:18:12] then I was very strategic about making
[1:18:15] this really big that big that I cannot
[1:18:18] even think
[1:18:20] about making it so big that I cannot
[1:18:22] even think right now
[1:18:28] did that ask you
[1:18:31] question I think this is say Ad don't J
[1:18:35] who said in that I think you don't try
[1:18:39] Ste goals you fall to your systems MH
[1:18:43] and I think in your case you have risen
[1:18:46] to your
[1:18:47] system so that is yeah that is really
[1:18:52] awesome to hear thank you for sharing
[1:18:55] yeah good you must welcome I wrote
[1:18:58] something today that I want to think so
[1:19:02] big that none of my family member have
[1:19:05] to ever think
[1:19:11] small W that is a nice
[1:19:14] piece that's how I I was it comes from
[1:19:17] just saying that this comes from 100%
[1:19:21] experience because no one who has not
[1:19:23] experienced this can write it so yeah
[1:19:28] it's it shows that you have been there
[1:19:30] you have done that and
[1:19:34] yeah yeah and I've done something so big
[1:19:37] that I would not have thought I would do
[1:19:40] so in last three years as I saying I've
[1:19:43] invested in writing programs I've
[1:19:46] invested in some organization organizing
[1:19:49] myself build a second brain program and
[1:19:51] I just invested
[1:19:54] in I think this is one of the biggest
[1:19:57] investment that I made to myself is I
[1:20:00] sign up for a a program from Ben Hardy
[1:20:04] Benjamin Hardy he's a writer he has
[1:20:07] written book like your feature yourself
[1:20:09] 10x is better than 2x he's written many
[1:20:14] book so I he a big amount just for one
[1:20:19] quarter but that give me access weekly
[1:20:22] access to him
[1:20:25] his
[1:20:26] philosophy and the idea is he's helping
[1:20:30] us like whoever have joined that program
[1:20:32] is to think really big about whatever
[1:20:35] next you want to
[1:20:43] do
[1:20:45] okay moving to the last question what is
[1:20:49] your message to the audience and our
[1:20:51] audience is programmer developer with
[1:20:54] zero to 5 year experience
[1:20:57] mhm it's see easy
[1:21:00] one again lot of students like it been a
[1:21:05] lot of one thing that I have noticed is
[1:21:08] whenever they interact with someone like
[1:21:10] me like
[1:21:12] yourselves a lot of people who they
[1:21:15] think that we have it all figured
[1:21:17] out and we have not so I'm telling you
[1:21:23] is I I am in the same boat as you I also
[1:21:27] learning as I'm going I'm also trying to
[1:21:30] figure life out I am also in the same
[1:21:32] boat I have
[1:21:34] just probably implemented more systems I
[1:21:38] just probably more consistent if you're
[1:21:40] not seeing results maybe just improve
[1:21:41] those aspects of your life but it's not
[1:21:44] that we are drastically different from
[1:21:46] we are probably the same people I
[1:21:48] probably have an average IQ of 10 or
[1:21:51] something and I'm just I'm same as you
[1:21:55] so I think everyone out there is most
[1:21:58] people out there are just average people
[1:22:01] but they just have strong wise to do
[1:22:05] things and I have said before also I you
[1:22:07] just found as a advice that find your V
[1:22:11] understand your V I know that none of us
[1:22:13] has it all figured out and we are all in
[1:22:15] the same boat so just keep Cal and work
[1:22:19] towards your why because your why is
[1:22:22] important
[1:22:27] yeah great advice and a thank you so
[1:22:30] much for coming to this podcast I really
[1:22:33] enjoy every minute of it you shared some
[1:22:36] personality I think I think it was more
[1:22:38] of a therapy than a podcast for me so
[1:22:40] thank you for calling me
[1:22:43] here it was really awesome to talk to
[1:22:45] you as always
[1:22:48] uh
[1:22:50] Andy then a podcast that and become a
[1:22:55] testimonial
[1:23:01] actually please do it gladly
[1:23:06] en all right thanks thanks
[1:23:12] a I welcome and thank you so much for
[1:23:15] giving me this chance to talk about my
[1:23:18] sh
[1:23:20] because I really enjoyed it and I have
[1:23:24] told you this before but you are a great
[1:23:25] host and and amazingly regulated person
[1:23:30] so thank you thank you so much
[1:23:34] a bye for
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