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Episode 2349:38

#21 Jodie Sacco: The Journey of Persistence, Falling Apart But Not Giving Up, and Open to Everything

About Jodie Sacco

Jodie Sacco is a South African-born entrepreneur who immigrated to the US 13 years ago and is now a US citizen based in Las Vegas. She currently owns multiple franchises of Action Coach, a 29-year-old business coaching company with global presence in 83 countries. Her background includes leadership roles at American Express and various entrepreneurial ventures before transitioning into business coaching.

Episode Summary

  • Jodie shares her journey from aspiring diplomat in South Africa to successful business coach in Las Vegas, including how rejection from the diplomatic corps led to unexpected opportunities.
  • She explains Action Coach's unique approach to business coaching, offering over 60 different products from $99/month book clubs to executive coaching packages starting at $5,000.
  • The episode covers Action Coach's '5 Ways' methodology that guarantees 61% growth by incrementally improving five key business metrics by just 10% each.
  • Jodie discusses the importance of being 'open to everything and attached to nothing' as an entrepreneurial mindset for handling setbacks and pivots.
  • She shares her experience building businesses in the US as a non-citizen, including navigating post-9/11 regulations and understanding unique market dynamics in Las Vegas.

Key Takeaways

  1. Avoid being too attached to specific outcomes - flexibility and openness to new opportunities can lead to unexpected success when original plans fall through.
  2. Focus on improving controllable business inputs rather than just tracking outcome metrics - small 10% improvements in five key areas can yield 61% profit growth.
  3. Building relationships and trust is crucial in business, especially in relationship-driven markets like Las Vegas where people want to do business with people they know.
  4. Discipline and consistency are more valuable than knowledge alone - you must apply what you learn through action, testing, and measurement to see results.
  5. When facing major setbacks or rejections, use them as opportunities to recalibrate and potentially discover better paths than originally planned.

Productivity & Success Habits

Jodie Sacco has developed a sophisticated approach to productivity that challenges traditional time management concepts. She believes that "time management is actually self-management" because "how can you stop time how can you manage time... time goes on despite." Her core system revolves around what she calls a "default diary" - a color-coordinated scheduling system where specific days are dedicated to particular activities. For example, Mondays and Fridays are reserved for admin, education, teamwork, financials, and follow-ups, while Tuesday through Thursday are designated for coaching.

Her goal-setting methodology follows Action Coach's structured approach, working with five-year, three-year, and one-year plans. However, the key to sticking to these goals lies in quarterly 90-day planning sessions. Every quarter, she conducts full-day workshops to plan the next 90 days, directly linking them to annual goals. This process breaks down into "three goals for the quarter, strategies linked to those goals, KPIs linked to the strategies, and then determining who is responsible to achieve these KPIs." The result is a one-page document that outlines weekly objectives and even specifies which books need to be read to ensure success.

Sacco emphasizes that discipline and consistency are fundamental to any success, whether in business or personal goals. She maintains daily habits including morning visualization before getting out of bed, where she visualizes her long-term purpose using all her senses, and evening gratitude practice. As she explains, "the brain cannot differentiate between what is real and what is imagined so it starts this manifestation process." This approach of "bookending" her day with intentional practices has been crucial to her ability to maintain focus and avoid the "shiny object" syndrome that often distracts entrepreneurs.

Final Thoughts & Advice

Sacco's final message to entrepreneurs centers on persistence and the importance of community. Her core advice is clear: "Don't ever give up on your vision. There's always going to be those roadblocks there's going to be bad days there's going to be awful days there's going to be terrible days they're going to be happy days." She acknowledges that "being an entrepreneur is one of the most arduous journeys" and "doesn't take just anybody to be an entrepreneur it takes a very special type of human."

Her most crucial recommendation involves surrounding yourself with the right people. She emphasizes the need to "surround yourself with a tribe - people who are in the same mindset, people who can contribute in a positive way and support you in your vision." This is particularly important because "there're going to be a lot of people out there who are going to be the naysayers who are going to plant seeds of doubt in your mind."

Throughout her journey from diplomatic aspirations to business coaching, Sacco has learned to live by Wayne Dyer's principle: "be open to everything and attached to nothing." This philosophy has allowed her to navigate multiple career pivots and setbacks without losing sight of her core vision - that inner knowing she had at 17 that she was "put on this earth for a very specific reason." Her story demonstrates that while the path may change dramatically, staying true to your fundamental purpose while remaining flexible about the means of achieving it can lead to unexpected and fulfilling destinations.

Notable Quotes

"Be open to everything and attached to nothing"

Jodie Sacco Jodie shares this Wayne Dyer quote as her life philosophy after her diplomatic career was derailed, explaining how it prevents fixation on specific outcomes and reduces disappointment.

"If you are so attached to a specific outcome that you are looking for you are going to feel massive disappointment and your world will fall apart"

Jodie Sacco She reflects on the lesson learned when she was rejected from South Africa's diplomatic corps due to post-apartheid policies, despite having the qualifications.

"You can acquire so much knowledge and information along the way on your entrepreneurial journey but if you don't apply discipline and get into action and actually take what you've learned and try it out and test it and measure it it's worthless"

Jodie Sacco Jodie emphasizes the importance of taking action and applying what you learn rather than just accumulating knowledge.

Episode transcript
[0:00] well thank you so much for your time
[0:02] tell the audience who jody is
[0:05] what you do
[0:06] and add how people can contact
[0:10] thanks vina thanks for having me here
[0:12] today um yeah so jody sacco born and
[0:15] raised south african
[0:17] came to the states 13 years ago and i
[0:21] now am a u.s citizen
[0:23] landed up in vegas to open a business
[0:27] that
[0:28] is an interesting story that we can
[0:29] delve deeper into in a bit later but
[0:32] i i've been in vegas now for 11 years
[0:35] and uh currently i am a firm owner um i
[0:39] own a couple franchises of the action
[0:42] coach business coaching franchise
[0:44] so
[0:45] action coach has been around for 29
[0:47] years based and originated out of
[0:50] australia now they're actually based
[0:51] here in in las vegas and what we offer
[0:55] is not only business owner coaching so
[0:59] um you know one-on-one strategic
[1:01] coaching we we really are primarily
[1:04] focused on educating the clients helping
[1:07] them and supporting them with planning
[1:10] and then the the coaching is is part of
[1:13] the strategic side of it so we have
[1:17] workshops seminars um and and full day
[1:21] planning events uh that really can
[1:23] support the client we have we actually
[1:25] have over 60 different products um so
[1:27] there really is something out there for
[1:29] everyone um now everybody and their dog
[1:32] these days seems to be a coach
[1:35] you know it's it's interesting uh just
[1:38] to say that uh you know 29 years ago
[1:41] there was no such thing as coaching so
[1:43] honestly i chose personally through my
[1:46] own uh entrepreneurial journey
[1:49] to hang my hat with action coach because
[1:52] of that extensive experience that they
[1:55] have and their global influence so
[1:57] they've been based they're based in 83
[1:59] countries and that really is very
[2:02] powerful when it comes to the offerings
[2:04] i can give to clients it's not just me
[2:06] giving my experience as an entrepreneur
[2:09] it's those
[2:10] you know almost three decades of of
[2:13] experience so i'm based here in las
[2:15] vegas people can get hold of me my email
[2:17] is jody sacco
[2:20] actioncoach.com
[2:22] and it's spelled j-o-d-i-e-s-a-c-c-o
[2:26] at actioncoach.com you can also visit my
[2:29] website it's
[2:31] simplyjodysacco.com so that's how people
[2:33] can get hold of me
[2:34] and do you want to add your pricing here
[2:36] or that's based on each person product
[2:39] pricing really does depend on what it is
[2:41] that you're looking for you can have a
[2:44] educational group that you join like our
[2:46] book club and that can start from as
[2:48] little as 99 per month um if you are
[2:52] looking to fast track that progress or
[2:55] really attain those goals that you would
[2:57] like to in your business so those goals
[2:59] generally could be something around
[3:02] you want a better team you want them to
[3:04] work better together you want more time
[3:06] freedom or you want to uh more more
[3:09] financial freedom or you're looking for
[3:11] that exit strategy it all depends on how
[3:14] quickly you want to do this so a group
[3:17] products range from
[3:19] uh twelve hundred dollars per month um
[3:22] up to you know four thousand dollars a
[3:24] month um and then the one-on-one
[3:26] coaching is is really dependent on how
[3:29] big your organization is
[3:31] because the offering is not just for you
[3:33] as the business coach if we identify
[3:35] that
[3:36] okay there's actually an issue here with
[3:38] one of the particular departments we
[3:40] would then focus specifically and
[3:42] strategically and work with the sales
[3:44] department for example so i really like
[3:47] to um explain
[3:49] you know if you think about it it's all
[3:51] it's an investment
[3:53] the biggest differentiator is we offer a
[3:55] 17-week
[3:56] guarantee
[3:58] to find our fee and increase your bottom
[4:00] line profits so that's a pretty bold
[4:03] move it's how much we believe and and
[4:05] what it is that we can do
[4:07] and um yeah you know on the front end it
[4:09] might seem like it's a big investment um
[4:12] but you've got nothing to lose to come
[4:13] and work with us if we guarantee your
[4:15] results right
[4:18] on your website you have a very specific
[4:20] number 61
[4:22] growth
[4:23] where that number comes from absolutely
[4:25] so we we use this incredible
[4:28] system that's obviously been devised
[4:30] over the years we refer to it as the
[4:32] five ways
[4:34] and uh it's something that i would i
[4:37] would love to draw out but i just don't
[4:38] have that opportunity right now
[4:40] essentially what it is is we look at
[4:43] what are the five ways that we can
[4:46] incrementally increase
[4:49] your bottom line profit so we know that
[4:53] most most business owners absolutely
[4:56] understand or have or at least have a
[4:58] very good hold on the number of
[5:00] customers they have
[5:02] their revenue and their bottom line
[5:05] profit
[5:06] now all of those three things are the
[5:08] outcomes they are results we can't
[5:11] change those they've done is that not
[5:14] true
[5:16] whereas if if
[5:18] if we can focus on um
[5:21] your
[5:22] the things that are influencing those
[5:25] three things which we refer to as the
[5:26] five ways which is number of leads
[5:30] your conversion rate
[5:32] the average um
[5:34] number of sales
[5:37] and
[5:38] the number of times so the average
[5:40] dollar sale what is the price of the
[5:42] average product you're selling um how
[5:44] many times does that customer buy with
[5:46] you and your margins
[5:47] we can absolutely impact every single
[5:50] one of those things and we don't come in
[5:53] there saying we're gonna we're gonna
[5:54] increase your leads by a thousand
[5:56] percent because your business won't be
[5:57] able to handle it what we do rather is
[6:00] we
[6:01] increase every one of those five ways
[6:03] just by ten percent
[6:05] and the bottom line impact of that that
[6:08] math gives you a 61 increase
[6:11] thank you thank you for explaining all
[6:13] that
[6:14] pleasure
[6:16] all right
[6:18] what you wanted to become when you was
[6:19] in high school
[6:21] i love this question oh my goodness
[6:23] that's my favorite
[6:25] so when i was in high school
[6:27] i actually
[6:29] had no specific idea what i wanted to to
[6:32] do
[6:33] um i just knew that i'd been put on the
[6:36] earth for a very specific reason
[6:38] i knew i
[6:40] had a big task ahead of me but i didn't
[6:43] know
[6:44] exactly what that was it was just like
[6:47] this inner knowing so i was always
[6:49] involved in leadership so i was on every
[6:52] council you could possibly think of i
[6:54] was the head of my school i was the
[6:56] captain of my of my field hockey team i
[6:58] was the captain of the national hockey
[7:00] team i you know i did it all right but i
[7:04] always knew that i was very
[7:05] people-centric and and i and i idolized
[7:09] people like mother teresa nelson mandela
[7:12] um
[7:13] bishop desmond tutu
[7:16] and and i re i just longed to
[7:19] to learn if i could even just be a
[7:21] little bit of those human beings imagine
[7:23] what i could do in the world um
[7:25] and and uh just at that time i
[7:29] was recruited by the rotary
[7:31] international
[7:32] youth exchange program
[7:34] i was nominated should i say to be an
[7:37] exchange student and that's really where
[7:40] i knew what i wanted to do because
[7:42] whilst i spent a year in brazil
[7:45] i really was an ambassador for south
[7:48] africa
[7:49] people wanted to know about south africa
[7:51] wanted to learn about it and i started
[7:53] traveling all over the country
[7:56] giving presentations on south africa
[7:58] and that's when i knew i wanted to be a
[8:00] diplomat
[8:01] um that's that's what i wanted to do
[8:03] when i when i was older
[8:06] so it was a long answer but but that's
[8:07] how i got to it your diploma journey and
[8:10] from there you coming to your united
[8:12] states
[8:14] i also saw that
[8:16] you've been a director at mx and then vp
[8:19] so you have done
[8:21] multiple things
[8:23] so
[8:24] give a glimpse of how that journey
[8:26] looked like and how did you land on this
[8:28] job
[8:30] yeah great question right that's the
[8:33] that's the million-dollar question um
[8:35] well first of all we never know what
[8:37] life what the journey is going to be and
[8:40] so i live my life these days by a
[8:42] beautiful saying it's by wayne dyer be
[8:44] open to everything and attached to
[8:47] nothing and it really allows you to um
[8:50] yeah not be so fixated with the end
[8:53] results and i tell you why i do this so
[8:56] my diplomatic journey never ever began
[8:59] um i
[9:01] simply because i came back from brazil
[9:04] went through a degree in university in
[9:07] political science and linguistics those
[9:08] were the recommendations
[9:10] and then myself and another goal in my
[9:12] class we both applied for the civil
[9:15] servants course which is is through the
[9:17] government organization and it's the
[9:19] precursor to then becoming um involved
[9:23] in the in the diplomatic core
[9:25] um during that time in south africa
[9:28] it was post-apartheid um apartheid was
[9:31] uh the segregation that was implemented
[9:34] into our constitution so it was a law um
[9:37] and uh it had been abolished um and and
[9:41] so the the south africa was really
[9:43] working very hard to compensate for the
[9:46] fact that people of color for almost 50
[9:49] years had never been allowed to work in
[9:52] traditional white people's jobs and so
[9:55] unfortunately you know i was um
[9:59] i was rejected
[10:00] and
[10:01] and my whole world fell apart i i didn't
[10:05] know what to do next i had this great
[10:07] plan i was moving to johannesburg i i i
[10:10] i knew the path that i wanted to be on
[10:13] and it was taken away from me because of
[10:16] something i couldn't control
[10:18] right so it's the probably the best
[10:21] lesson i can teach any entrepreneur
[10:23] is that if you are so attached to a
[10:26] specific outcome that you are looking
[10:28] for
[10:30] you are going to feel massive
[10:32] disappointment and your world will fall
[10:34] apart
[10:35] so that's why i choose to live my life
[10:37] now by being open to everything because
[10:40] yeah you know we hit roblox um and my
[10:43] story is a testament to that yes i did i
[10:46] did fall apart
[10:48] but i was just in such a beautiful place
[10:51] my my family my mum and dad took me in
[10:53] and really gave me a place to kind of
[10:56] rebuild and that's how i landed up in
[10:58] travel because i knew that i loved
[11:00] travel i had no experience in
[11:03] being part of a travel organization and
[11:06] in in the
[11:08] 1990s early 2000s travel agents were
[11:12] still very much um
[11:15] you know how people booked their travel
[11:16] uh there was you know the internet
[11:18] wasn't that great wasn't that um
[11:20] you know well known it wasn't that
[11:22] developed there so i landed up working
[11:24] in uh flight center as a sales agent and
[11:27] that's really where i picked up my sales
[11:29] skills and the training within that
[11:31] organization is incredible but because
[11:33] of my ambition and my leadership i very
[11:36] quickly rose to a management position
[11:40] and then i left flight center um
[11:42] traveled for a little bit came back and
[11:44] that's that's really when i i decided to
[11:47] work with american express
[11:49] um and within
[11:51] not even a year i had been asked to be
[11:53] the director of the entire division of
[11:56] the corporates american express so you
[11:58] know was it was putting up big tent it
[12:00] was um
[12:01] putting out a lot of um
[12:03] requests for um proposals you know
[12:05] responding to tenders that would come
[12:08] from massive organizations you know
[12:11] t-mobile and mobile gas and you know all
[12:14] these kinds of things and so i was
[12:15] always doing a lot of presentation i was
[12:17] always um i had a team so i was running
[12:19] a team of individuals um so i really got
[12:23] to taste that sort of c-suite management
[12:26] level we landed up coming to the us
[12:29] um we originally originally uh opened a
[12:32] helicopter business so i got a i got a
[12:35] um a birthing of fire in in terms of
[12:39] learning how businesses operate in the
[12:41] us i also had to jump through tons of
[12:43] hoops because we weren't u.s citizens
[12:46] and by law post um 9 11
[12:49] non-us citizens even if we had green
[12:51] cards we weren't allowed to own
[12:53] aircrafts
[12:54] so
[12:55] there was lots of creativity and and
[12:57] again being open to okay well we can't
[13:00] do this but there's always a solution
[13:02] what is the solution let's find the
[13:04] solution and that's what we did right so
[13:07] then that was that and then um yeah we
[13:09] had this opportunity to come out to
[13:11] vegas and
[13:12] really got again a baptism of fire in
[13:16] terms of understanding how unique the
[13:18] marketplace is here in vegas
[13:21] i think that's something else that's
[13:22] very key that i'd love to impart with
[13:25] other business owners is
[13:26] you know you you can't just throw a
[13:28] bunch of marketing and think that
[13:30] something's going to stick because
[13:32] people want to do business with people
[13:35] and they want to know who you are um so
[13:38] you know in vegas it's all about it
[13:40] literally is it's all about who you know
[13:42] it's your connections
[13:44] it really is they want to trust you so
[13:46] you know that was that was an incredible
[13:48] experience and um
[13:49] and so
[13:51] here i was again jody at
[13:54] age 40
[13:55] and i've had all this great experience
[13:57] and i
[13:58] had to i had to reinvent myself
[14:01] um trying to get a job on the strip i
[14:03] thought about going back to corporate
[14:05] you know working in one of the bigger
[14:06] bigger casinos or organizations
[14:09] i just knew i couldn't be somebody
[14:11] else's employee i i needed the
[14:15] the space to grow and and be and um yeah
[14:19] then i started a network marketing
[14:20] company um it was online it was kind of
[14:23] during uh the covert period as well and
[14:26] um
[14:27] loved that and and it was all in
[14:29] personal development and learned so much
[14:31] in my own personal growth and uh
[14:34] experience and expertise when it comes
[14:36] to mindsets
[14:38] and and working harder on yourself
[14:40] really was was found in in those those
[14:43] two years that i was there won a couple
[14:45] of awards you can see at the back here
[14:47] um i
[14:48] was um noted as the a rising star within
[14:52] the first six months of being in the
[14:53] organization
[14:54] and then um
[14:56] in march last year i was actually
[14:59] awarded a 50 a 50k award meaning i made
[15:03] a 50 000 us dollar profit in a single
[15:05] month
[15:06] so that was that was pretty awesome uh
[15:09] you know just in the network marketing
[15:10] business so at that point i was tapped
[15:13] on the shoulder by the owner and founder
[15:16] of action coach
[15:18] uh his name is brad sugars an incredible
[15:20] human being
[15:21] definitely a mentor in my life
[15:24] and
[15:25] he he said to me hey i i want to grow
[15:28] action coach out here in las vegas i i i
[15:31] need boots on the ground and i think
[15:34] i think you'd be great for it so that's
[15:36] how i kind of did the full circle to
[15:38] action coach and went through my
[15:40] certification we are accredited uh
[15:43] certified business coaches and then i
[15:46] also on top of that did my executive
[15:48] coaching so
[15:49] that's more for the c-suite level
[15:52] organizations and uh that really ranges
[15:55] anywhere from uh you know
[15:57] four thousand uh for workshops and uh uh
[16:01] us dollars
[16:02] and then individual one-on-one exec
[16:04] coaching is anywhere from five thousand
[16:06] dollars and up because that's obviously
[16:08] a very very different type of of of
[16:10] coaching
[16:12] so that's my long answer to your short
[16:14] question
[16:15] wow i have
[16:17] many follow-up questions on this
[16:20] but i also want to acknowledge what a
[16:23] roller coaster ride
[16:25] and
[16:26] what a long ride
[16:30] right
[16:32] where you started and then
[16:35] every these job
[16:37] i'm pretty sure that
[16:39] you was deeply involved
[16:41] when you was there
[16:43] you were emotionally
[16:45] into this
[16:46] and then you able to detach
[16:49] and start something new
[16:51] and now
[16:53] you again
[16:54] detach and start something new
[16:57] how remarkable is that
[17:00] yeah i never thought about it that way
[17:01] that's that's a wonderful
[17:03] perspective
[17:05] yeah but i think when um
[17:07] to your point there
[17:09] when whenever i was in those
[17:12] businesses
[17:14] i was highly disciplined and focused on
[17:16] the results that i could get
[17:19] at the end
[17:20] it was
[17:22] um
[17:24] it's such a growing period
[17:26] and you know one can acquire so much
[17:29] knowledge and information along the way
[17:31] on your entrepreneurial journey but if
[17:33] you don't apply
[17:34] um discipline and get get into action
[17:37] and actually take what you've learned
[17:39] and and try it out and test it and
[17:41] measure it it's worthless right and and
[17:44] so i think discipline and consistency is
[17:48] the key to any kind of success
[17:52] um whether that be in a business or in a
[17:54] in a personal in a personal goal right
[17:57] the same thing with my network marketing
[17:59] business i i felt like i'd lost this
[18:01] family like this
[18:03] i'd be torn away
[18:04] and and yeah and then you have to start
[18:06] again but um
[18:08] i i think i think the key to all of this
[18:10] is um often in life we have to
[18:13] recalibrate because
[18:15] things happen we get told no we get told
[18:19] i'm sorry you're the wrong color i'm
[18:21] sorry
[18:23] you know you don't get to be a part of
[18:24] this anymore
[18:26] or we make a decision that we've
[18:28] outgrown where we are and we need to go
[18:30] somewhere else
[18:31] and and it's all about well how do you
[18:33] recalibrate
[18:36] right it's like
[18:37] i love to use that analogy of um
[18:40] a gps uh in a car so imagine you arrive
[18:44] and you're arriving
[18:46] in uh i don't know in amsterdam you've
[18:48] never been there before
[18:50] pick up your hyde car and you've got
[18:51] your gps on your phone or or wherever
[18:54] you have it and you put in the
[18:55] destination of the hotel
[18:58] you know and along the way you know
[18:59] there might be construction
[19:01] what does the gps do it doesn't say to
[19:03] you oh sorry
[19:04] you're done
[19:06] yeah right it says recalibrate
[19:08] recalibrate you know how are we going to
[19:12] um just take a moment and and look for
[19:15] another direction but the point is uh
[19:18] vinod is that you never ever take your
[19:20] eyes off the goal of the visions of the
[19:23] long term vision that you have in your
[19:26] heart so for me that little girl
[19:29] at age 17 and i talk about her a lot in
[19:31] my life these days that girl who knew
[19:34] without a shadow of a doubt that she was
[19:36] put on this earth for a bigger purpose
[19:39] that's my vision my vision is to
[19:42] you know
[19:43] impart that and be that person and so it
[19:46] doesn't matter what i've
[19:48] what i've been told or what i've lost
[19:51] i never ever lose sight of that vision
[19:53] that i set for myself it's like that
[19:55] north star right it's always there it's
[19:57] like guiding light
[19:59] yeah
[20:00] yeah
[20:01] and this is so powerful you're doing
[20:02] that side by side or you completely
[20:05] stopped it
[20:06] no i i um i closed that business down
[20:09] completely
[20:10] because
[20:12] you know i had grown a team of of people
[20:14] around me and it just wasn't fair to
[20:17] them
[20:18] in terms of what i could give to them um
[20:21] so i chose
[20:23] um i don't believe in having a side
[20:25] hustle um i believe in in the initial
[20:28] stages of growing a business right so
[20:31] i've been growing this business and
[20:32] action coach this is my fifth month so
[20:35] for right now my focus needs to be on
[20:38] growing this business i own four
[20:40] franchises not just one so i really have
[20:45] hundreds and thousands of business
[20:46] owners in the valley of las vegas that i
[20:48] need to serve
[20:49] so
[20:50] i need to focus very clearly
[20:53] on what that task is ahead of me
[20:56] once i get to the place where my
[20:58] business is starting to run without me
[21:01] that's actually our definition of a
[21:02] business it's a profitable enterprise
[21:05] that works without you
[21:08] so once i get to that phase because i've
[21:11] done all these other foundational things
[21:13] now i'm at that point where okay let me
[21:16] look at what is my side hustle uh or
[21:19] maybe i have more time maybe i want to
[21:21] be um
[21:23] more involved in the community uh you
[21:25] know things like that so so i really i
[21:28] really believe that um
[21:31] some people i can can do a side hustle
[21:33] and and absolutely kill it but i but i
[21:36] think if you have a corporate job and
[21:37] you're doing a side hustle
[21:39] that's absolutely doable because your
[21:42] corporate job gives you defined hours of
[21:44] operation and then you've got all these
[21:46] other hours that you can fill in what it
[21:48] is that you're looking for for your next
[21:50] chapter right but as an entrepreneur
[21:52] it's so important to stay focused um
[21:55] generally as entrepreneurs we uh we're
[21:58] very distracted by shiny objects which
[22:01] means any kind of idea that we have
[22:04] we're like oh i want to do that you know
[22:06] oh that looks good and then we start
[22:07] going in this direction and then whoa i
[22:09] want to do that and we go that way
[22:11] instead of staying laser focused on one
[22:14] thing achieving it nailing it um
[22:17] becoming the expert at it and then
[22:20] moving on to the next thing and i'm
[22:22] falling to the category that you were
[22:24] suggesting he was talking about that i
[22:26] have a corporate job
[22:28] and
[22:29] on my side hustle for the last 15 years
[22:31] i'm i was doing something or the other
[22:34] and this shiny object thing has been the
[22:37] biggest problem that i have encountered
[22:40] for last three years though i've been
[22:42] very consistent with my writing and now
[22:44] i started this and then
[22:47] i'm going after the purpose and not
[22:49] all these chinese so they are not able
[22:51] to distract me as it was before
[22:54] so i can relate to what you're saying
[22:56] yeah i think you've you nailed it there
[22:58] vinod you said i'm going after my
[23:01] purpose
[23:02] so you found your north star you worked
[23:05] enough on yourself to understand what
[23:07] your purpose on this earth is and and
[23:10] that's what i feel is missing it's like
[23:12] the missing
[23:14] ingredients
[23:16] in so many
[23:17] entrepreneurs lives
[23:19] is that they don't stop the stop and
[23:21] take the time to work on themselves as
[23:23] much as they do on their business
[23:26] so yeah you nailed it there with uh
[23:29] you know the focus comes because you
[23:31] understand the purpose
[23:33] you found your purpose you were just 17
[23:36] year old i don't know if you are aware
[23:37] of this but i'm pretty sure that you
[23:39] have seen people who don't know their
[23:41] purpose who don't even know what they
[23:42] want from their life
[23:44] is there any tip for those people yeah
[23:46] so true i mean honestly i i think
[23:50] just going back to understanding you
[23:52] know knowing i had this higher purpose i
[23:54] didn't know what it was though
[23:56] right so so even though i might have
[23:58] known in my mind i never understood it
[24:01] and i never
[24:02] i never actioned it i never
[24:04] spent time
[24:06] truly understanding that so to answer
[24:08] your question if people are feeling like
[24:10] they just
[24:12] i don't know like in a holding pattern
[24:14] like they the plane that gets
[24:16] you know at newark airports and they
[24:18] they're just like
[24:19] you know up in the sky and and
[24:22] control hasn't said to them yet you can
[24:24] land
[24:25] if you're feeling like that there's only
[24:26] one thing you need to do personal
[24:28] development it's the most important
[24:31] thing if you do not work on yourself
[24:34] you will never ever ever get to that
[24:37] point of understanding what your north
[24:39] star is what your purpose is
[24:41] so
[24:42] there are incredible courses out there
[24:44] that are free
[24:45] but you want to look specifically under
[24:47] personal development
[24:48] um you definitely
[24:51] would do yourself a service by hiring a
[24:53] coach
[24:55] you know that's one thing that that i'm
[24:56] passionate about and that i love love
[24:58] coaching on um and and because it's so
[25:02] true to my journey as well you know
[25:04] obviously after a divorce uh trying to
[25:06] reinvent yourself and and having this
[25:09] loss of identity
[25:10] that was really where i understood
[25:13] what my 17 year old self was saying what
[25:16] was new
[25:17] i didn't know until then i couldn't
[25:19] define it
[25:21] until i spent i was also it was three
[25:23] years
[25:23] three years all i did was work on myself
[25:28] so
[25:29] what does that look like you know i
[25:30] hired a coach straight out the bat
[25:33] um what it looks like is daily
[25:35] consistent work on self
[25:39] it can't it has to become a habit in
[25:41] your life
[25:42] and then there's little tips and tricks
[25:44] that you know uh
[25:46] we can we we can coach through and uh
[25:48] you just set yourself up for success
[25:51] in that way um but but the biggest thing
[25:54] is to first unpack and understand what
[25:56] it is where are you going in this life
[25:59] why have you been put on this earth
[26:01] this big existential question that i
[26:04] think so many of us land up going
[26:06] through and
[26:08] the sad part though don't you think is
[26:09] so many people only
[26:11] think about this on their deathbed
[26:13] many people are on autopilot correct
[26:17] correct
[26:18] their train
[26:20] flight
[26:21] car is moving
[26:23] and
[26:24] they're just driving
[26:26] that's right
[26:28] yeah and and
[26:30] what a
[26:31] what a sad way to live with all the
[26:34] opportunity and
[26:36] experience around you and every single
[26:38] day i think
[26:39] um understanding how every single day is
[26:42] a gift and uh the opportunities that are
[26:45] involved in that um was life-changing
[26:47] for me as well
[26:49] um and it's always sad that you have to
[26:50] go through something traumatic to
[26:54] figure it out and come out the other
[26:55] side and
[26:56] you know i'm just grateful i did come
[26:58] out the other side
[26:59] right
[27:01] you said you you were working every day
[27:04] on yourself for like three years yeah
[27:07] can you give some
[27:09] examples what those activities were yes
[27:13] uh education it's all about education so
[27:16] um
[27:17] every day i was either reading a book um
[27:20] actually purchase a personal development
[27:22] course that it was one of the courses
[27:24] that i sold in my network marketing
[27:25] business and it was a full one-year
[27:27] curriculum
[27:29] and then every time there was any kind
[27:31] of seminar
[27:33] um i was just consuming information
[27:36] consuming consuming but then also
[27:38] practicing so like i said earlier
[27:41] knowledge is great but if it's not
[27:43] actioned it's just worthless um you have
[27:46] to actually imply implement it i also
[27:49] started um
[27:51] meditating um doing yoga a calm doing
[27:55] activities that would calm me down
[27:58] instead of this like crazy
[28:00] hamster wheel that i constantly
[28:02] experienced in my head and so in those
[28:05] moments of calm
[28:08] it allows you
[28:09] to have
[28:11] to remove yourself from the craziness
[28:13] and have clarity
[28:15] because
[28:16] the biggest
[28:18] lesson i learned was that when we always
[28:21] in a reactive mode
[28:23] if we're always stressed and we're
[28:24] always reacting reacting reacting we're
[28:27] actually just using the animal part of
[28:29] our brain
[28:30] it's the same brain that a lion or a
[28:33] you know maybe a giraffe or an impala
[28:36] has when they when they get a fright and
[28:38] they have to run
[28:39] you know they're just fearing for their
[28:41] lives and living in that zone all the
[28:43] time is
[28:44] you you have an inability for clarity of
[28:46] thought and you have an inability for um
[28:50] you know what is my next step
[28:52] so in those moments of quieting together
[28:55] with the education i was then able
[28:58] to find that space
[29:00] to start saying well what does jody want
[29:04] what is jody's purpose
[29:06] journaling
[29:07] journaling is another thing
[29:09] i mean i have all my journals here
[29:11] they're all over the place and i refer
[29:13] to them often um and then there's
[29:15] another two little tips that i give all
[29:17] my clients um one is it's almost like
[29:20] you bookend your day with these things
[29:23] so in the morning when you wake up
[29:25] before you even get out of bed you
[29:27] visualize your long-term purpose
[29:30] visualize and and and not just in your
[29:33] mind's eye feel it so if it's you up on
[29:36] stage about to achieve an award
[29:39] hear the crowd um smell the
[29:42] uh you know the fragrance in the air or
[29:45] you know like you get emotional about it
[29:47] because the brain cannot differentiate
[29:50] between what is real and what is
[29:52] imagined so it starts this manifestation
[29:56] process
[29:57] and so you book in the front end of your
[29:59] day is visualization
[30:01] and then also do what do i want to
[30:03] achieve in the day what does the day
[30:04] look like for me and then at the end of
[30:06] the day as you get into bed at night
[30:09] give gratitude and thanks for all the
[30:12] good that has happened
[30:14] embrace the challenges of course you can
[30:17] even say i'm so grateful for
[30:19] the mistake i made today because i
[30:21] learned a valuable lesson
[30:22] but but come from a place of gratitude
[30:25] again it's programming this incredible
[30:29] machine we have up here
[30:31] to focus on the good
[30:33] and not on the negative
[30:34] because what we focus on we will bring
[30:37] about in our real world
[30:40] so no it's it's a den deal yeah
[30:43] so those are my tips
[30:45] and you know these activities are so
[30:47] simple you don't even need to buy
[30:49] anything you don't need
[30:51] fancy thing anybody can do it today
[30:54] exactly the simplest thing but
[30:57] simplest thing or hardest to do
[30:59] right always and and again that
[31:01] consistency discipline and consistency
[31:04] yeah
[31:04] you know i've fallen off the wagon i
[31:06] absolutely i get distracted i you know
[31:09] suddenly oversleep and the alarm goes
[31:11] off and i'm jumping out and running and
[31:13] getting my kids and i'm feeding the dogs
[31:15] and you know i we're human but but it's
[31:18] making sure you have systems in place i
[31:21] have it in a default diary make sure
[31:23] that every day these are the things that
[31:25] you're doing um and and and just get
[31:28] them in it's five minutes you know ten
[31:30] minutes of your day five in the morning
[31:32] five in the evening
[31:33] what was driving you in those moments
[31:37] those days that you feeling everything
[31:40] is gone even the divorce and then
[31:43] you you're coming out of it so you talk
[31:46] about everything that you've done but
[31:48] inside what was driving you um
[31:51] well i i mean to be
[31:53] very vulnerable and honest uh you know
[31:56] that there was
[31:57] a year where
[31:59] i um
[32:01] i didn't know what my purpose was i was
[32:03] a very lost soul
[32:04] um
[32:05] and and it was because i'd never i never
[32:08] i'd never spent time investing in myself
[32:11] my whole life i'd lived uh thinking that
[32:14] i had to always be
[32:16] somebody for someone else and and so
[32:19] what it did was it left me feeling not
[32:21] good enough i never felt good enough i
[32:23] didn't feel like a good enough mother i
[32:25] didn't feel like a good enough wife i
[32:27] didn't feel like a good enough business
[32:28] owner i didn't feel like a good enough
[32:30] human
[32:31] and that was all my own doing and i
[32:33] lived my life by
[32:35] a glass half empty mentality right it's
[32:38] like like i didn't understand what a
[32:41] growth mindset is i didn't understand
[32:43] what a poverty mindset was
[32:45] i'd never understood that stuff so you
[32:48] know i had wished in my in my mind every
[32:51] day i had had these thoughts of and then
[32:55] a very very very dark place and i have
[32:57] no fear i have no family here it was
[32:59] just my kids and
[33:01] and and what did i do right so uh
[33:04] somehow
[33:06] i don't know i cannot explain it to you
[33:08] but
[33:08] in those moments of quiet and
[33:11] and
[33:12] through the process of
[33:15] starting to scratch the surface on the
[33:17] personal development
[33:19] working with my coach
[33:22] i feel as though in that darkest darkest
[33:25] place in my life that i've ever ever
[33:27] experienced
[33:29] there was that little ray
[33:31] of light that came through
[33:34] this dark pit that i felt like i was
[33:36] in and all i did then was i held on to a
[33:40] belief
[33:42] that there's that proverbial light at
[33:44] the end of the tunnel right but if i
[33:47] hadn't have had personal development if
[33:49] i hadn't have started that process
[33:52] i i fear where i'd be today i i
[33:54] sincerely do and i mean i'm being
[33:56] vulnerable because i i know people want
[33:58] to
[33:59] want authenticity these days right i'm
[34:01] not perfect i i made horrible choices
[34:05] and then i and then i i went through
[34:07] um fear and regrets and guilt
[34:11] the guilt was it was like a noose around
[34:13] my neck i mean it
[34:15] yeah it was horrible but um
[34:18] honestly it was it was only the personal
[34:20] development and my coach who supported
[34:22] me through that
[34:23] um and
[34:24] you know i i know that that some people
[34:27] financially might not be able to afford
[34:29] a coach or afford a personal development
[34:32] course
[34:33] don't worry about that there is so much
[34:35] free information out there on youtube
[34:38] it is
[34:39] it is a wonderful gift that we have
[34:42] so if if there's anything i would say if
[34:45] you just if you feel like you're numb if
[34:48] you feel like you're in that big dark
[34:49] black hole and you you have no idea
[34:52] where to start just search personal
[34:55] development on youtube
[34:57] and just start watching a video you'll
[34:59] very soon know who you like who you
[35:01] don't like
[35:02] and then obviously you know if you are
[35:04] in a situation um people could reach out
[35:06] to me it's it's it's definitely
[35:08] something that's a
[35:10] a passion of mine in one of the
[35:12] components of the coaching that we do
[35:14] and that reflects in everything that you
[35:16] you speak today it's my pleasure
[35:20] i just wanted to
[35:21] say something
[35:22] yeah you you was at that darkest place
[35:25] but now see how many people you are you
[35:28] have recruited and you are you're giving
[35:30] a job opportunity
[35:33] i know
[35:34] i'm
[35:35] very very aware of that you know it's uh
[35:38] it's uh it gives me goosebumps right
[35:42] so sometimes we lift ourselves
[35:46] and that not just for ourselves but
[35:49] for others that's a yeah that's just
[35:51] your two daughter but
[35:53] oh my god
[35:55] and the equipment
[35:57] yeah you know it's so it's so true um
[36:00] absolutely
[36:01] yeah but in that dark place i couldn't
[36:03] even think about my daughters until
[36:06] until i could save myself because
[36:09] because if
[36:10] you can't save yourself if you can't
[36:12] if you can't get yourself out of bed if
[36:14] you can't if you can't even think about
[36:16] what your next step is how can i even
[36:18] think about my my kids right that that's
[36:21] the place i got to it was even worse
[36:23] than that
[36:24] um and you know it's like
[36:26] i needed i needed to save myself so that
[36:29] i could then be the best mother i could
[36:31] be
[36:32] um present for them and uh because i
[36:34] just i just wasn't at all
[36:36] my wife has gone through a depression
[36:39] twice so i know exactly what you're
[36:40] saying yeah it's it's debilitating right
[36:43] it's uh
[36:44] it's um it's a disease that is i think
[36:46] very
[36:48] any mental illness it's um
[36:50] yeah
[36:51] it's not very you won't even realize
[36:53] that you have it and if you have fever
[36:56] people can sense that you have fever
[36:58] yeah
[36:59] measure temperature and uh but with this
[37:02] one
[37:03] yeah nobody even kind of acknowledge and
[37:05] appreciate that what you doing oh no and
[37:08] they kind of think poorly of you if
[37:10] you're depressed what's wrong with you
[37:12] what are you doing why are you depressed
[37:14] yeah
[37:15] you're crazy you don't know
[37:18] so
[37:19] changing to a slightly lighter mode
[37:23] you said something carpool
[37:25] i think that's what i read in about us
[37:27] page or somewhere if you're not reading
[37:29] you're carpooling or something
[37:31] oh that's funny oh my goodness yeah so
[37:35] so if you're not the one actually
[37:37] driving if you're not the one reading
[37:40] and growing and and and expanding then
[37:43] then you're constantly in the back seat
[37:44] as one of the kids like just getting
[37:46] along for the ride like
[37:48] wouldn't you want to be extraordinary in
[37:50] your life wouldn't you want to be
[37:52] um
[37:54] memorable like like don't you want to
[37:56] leave your stamp on the world and maybe
[37:57] you don't and that's okay and i think i
[38:00] think we should never judge people who
[38:02] who want to be be the passenger in a
[38:05] carpool
[38:06] you know there's no room for judgment in
[38:08] that but but we we this program is for
[38:10] entrepreneurs right so so
[38:13] you know i use it in the context of this
[38:16] that that yeah if you feel like you're
[38:18] stuck in the back of the car always just
[38:20] going along for the ride
[38:22] hey the only way you're going to get in
[38:24] the front seat is if you actually go
[38:25] through uh
[38:27] what's it car ed right and um
[38:30] driver's ed
[38:32] so get your driver's license and then
[38:34] you get to be in control
[38:36] you know white languages
[38:39] i do
[38:40] so you you
[38:41] just learn
[38:42] because of the situation
[38:44] or circumstances or you wanted to
[38:49] ah that's a good question um i never
[38:51] knew that i had an affinity for
[38:53] languages until i was the exchange
[38:56] student in brazil
[38:57] and very quickly i realized that i had
[39:01] to learn because i arrived and nobody
[39:03] spoke english
[39:05] and i
[39:06] i just
[39:08] i i walked around with a little
[39:10] dictionary because i did you know there
[39:11] were no phones in 1995
[39:14] no smartphones and i walked around with
[39:16] my little blue portuguese english
[39:18] dictionary
[39:19] and i had a wonderful host family
[39:22] the young son he posted
[39:25] nouns you know of all the different
[39:27] nouns around the house everything had a
[39:30] little a little word on it that was in
[39:32] portuguese like the bed had the karma on
[39:35] it and the door porter and then it was
[39:37] like the whole the whole house was just
[39:39] covered so he helped me but within
[39:42] within um the first six weeks i i was
[39:44] starting to understand it and then by
[39:46] three months i was literally fluent um
[39:49] and i can read write and and obviously
[39:51] speak in brazilian portuguese
[39:54] um and then when i came back to
[39:56] south africa to go through university
[39:58] and i decided i wanted to be a diplomat
[40:01] i then had i had to
[40:03] increase my
[40:05] uh international languages so i majored
[40:08] in um in french uh mine in in german um
[40:13] my dad's my dad's ancestry is german so
[40:16] that's why it was it was nice to do that
[40:18] um
[40:19] so that's uh so english afrikaans is the
[40:21] native south african language and then
[40:23] the portuguese
[40:24] then um i did the french and the german
[40:27] and the major i don't speak german
[40:31] much at all so i've kind of lost it but
[40:33] i understand it
[40:34] and then and then we actually before we
[40:37] moved to the us from south africa we
[40:39] lived in italy for three months and i
[40:42] went to i went to italian school because
[40:45] that's i was like yeah i get to learn
[40:47] another language i was fluent in that
[40:50] within the three months as well so um
[40:52] and now in being in the us i'm i'm
[40:55] definitely starting to understand
[40:56] spanish
[40:58] so i i think
[41:00] you know again don't don't limit
[41:02] yourself because i i never knew i didn't
[41:05] really enjoy learning a second language
[41:07] in south africa afrikaans it was forced
[41:10] on us um
[41:11] but hey i
[41:12] go to brazil and all of a sudden there's
[41:14] a whole new world that opens up for me
[41:16] right
[41:18] yeah so that's where the languages come
[41:20] from
[41:21] so moving to the last segment
[41:24] uh what is your goal setting and time
[41:26] management methods
[41:28] cool great script great questions so
[41:31] um first of all uh we don't believe in
[41:34] time management
[41:37] because how can you stop time how can
[41:40] you manage time
[41:42] time goes on
[41:43] despite
[41:44] so we believe rather
[41:46] time management is actually
[41:48] self-management
[41:50] so we as humans need to be disciplined
[41:54] in what it is that we want to achieve in
[41:56] the 24 hours that each and every one of
[41:58] us are given so one of the ways we do
[42:00] that is we coach on using a default
[42:03] diary i mentioned it earlier and it's
[42:06] basically looking at your day
[42:08] and
[42:09] uh you can color coordinate it or say
[42:11] you know what are all the things that i
[42:12] i want to achieve in this day
[42:15] and and and then break it up into days
[42:17] so for example um i uh on a monday and a
[42:21] friday those days are blocked out for
[42:24] admin education teamwork uh financials
[42:28] um follow-ups
[42:31] sales calls those days are expressly
[42:34] saved for that i coach on tuesday
[42:36] wednesday thursday so i'm very
[42:38] disciplined in what i'm doing on
[42:41] different days and i do that by using a
[42:42] default diary so
[42:44] um you know i block out time so in the
[42:47] morning from from six to seven it's
[42:49] education um and then from seven to
[42:52] eight that's when i'm dropping my kids
[42:53] off at school then it's it's it's
[42:55] blocked out in these color blocks so
[42:57] that when you go then to book a meeting
[43:01] or
[43:02] book a lunch engagement or go to an
[43:04] event for example
[43:06] you go to your default diary and say
[43:08] okay where on my diary did i allocate
[43:11] that specific activity and if there
[43:14] isn't time you then can't do it you have
[43:17] to change you have to postpone it for
[43:19] the next week
[43:20] right and so that's how you become
[43:22] self-disciplined
[43:24] versus having time
[43:26] you know self-management versus time
[43:28] management
[43:29] that's the one thing
[43:31] and then your second point how do i
[43:32] stick to goals um i work very
[43:35] specifically and it's an action coach
[43:37] methodology um what we do is we we work
[43:41] on a five-year plan um a three-year and
[43:44] a one-year plan
[43:45] but most importantly how do you stick to
[43:48] those things what we do is every 90 days
[43:51] we have a full day workshop
[43:53] whether it be with us with our with our
[43:55] team whether it be with our clients and
[43:58] at that we plan out our next 90 days now
[44:02] those 90 days are directly linked to
[44:04] that one year goal
[44:07] so we state okay what are the three
[44:09] goals i want to achieve in this quarter
[44:11] what are the strategies linked to those
[44:14] goals
[44:15] and then what are the kpis linked to the
[44:18] strategies
[44:19] and then from there we break it down
[44:21] into who is responsible to achieve these
[44:25] kpis
[44:27] and at the end of the day the client
[44:28] gets to walk out with a one-page
[44:30] document that has all of this listed out
[44:34] and that's broken up into weeks so week
[44:36] one of quarter two is these other things
[44:39] i need to achieve and the beautiful
[44:41] thing is at the bottom it says what
[44:42] books do i need to read in order to
[44:45] ensure the success
[44:48] so yeah we're very very results
[44:50] orientated and the only way you can
[44:53] achieve goals is if you have plans it's
[44:57] the only way you know plans strategies
[45:00] kpis holding people accountable holding
[45:02] yourself accountable as well
[45:07] yeah so we hold those um workshops uh
[45:10] once every quarter the next one's
[45:12] actually coming up in vegas on uh april
[45:14] 2nd
[45:15] it's going to be a planet hollywood and
[45:17] um we have uh i mean so far we've got
[45:20] about 40 registered so it should be
[45:23] what's great about those as well is uh
[45:25] you get to network with other business
[45:26] owners and and kind of learn best
[45:28] practices from them as well
[45:31] you you don't have any online right
[45:33] these are all in person
[45:36] yeah well i can do them in these
[45:38] particular ones are in person but if i
[45:40] had if i had enough
[45:42] um you know clients out of state i could
[45:45] absolutely do it online as well yeah
[45:48] all right before i ask you the last
[45:50] question any question for me what is
[45:52] your purpose for a long time um i
[45:55] thought that writing
[45:57] is something that
[46:00] i am kind of made for
[46:03] and then i started
[46:05] going deeper
[46:06] and i realized that
[46:08] it's not the writing it's a storytelling
[46:12] so
[46:13] i am good at storytelling i love and i'm
[46:16] passionate about listening to stories it
[46:19] doesn't even take any effort from my
[46:21] side because i enjoy it so much
[46:23] so i felt
[46:25] a
[46:25] combination of all that become this
[46:29] that
[46:30] i tell a story to help these people
[46:33] um and one of the way i found it through
[46:36] this is
[46:37] i just don't have to
[46:39] tell my
[46:41] learning by doing
[46:43] these interview these podcasts i can
[46:45] share hundreds of the stories from other
[46:47] people and whoever looking
[46:49] for that inspiration can get it from you
[46:52] your story is so powerful
[46:54] whoever will listen and can relate to
[46:57] will get benefit from that they will see
[46:59] a light
[47:01] you welcome so if somebody is in that
[47:04] early five-year career or ten-year
[47:07] career
[47:08] they may not be able to visualize what
[47:10] next five ten years looks like by
[47:12] watching these stories they will see
[47:15] they will see the hope they will see the
[47:17] steps
[47:18] yeah that's that's so powerful uh you
[47:21] know well done um
[47:23] yeah you you
[47:24] understand that your storytelling is
[47:26] powerful but that
[47:28] your purpose of creating a platform for
[47:31] others stories is just as important so
[47:33] that's fantastic well done
[47:36] thank you
[47:37] last question what is your message to
[47:39] the audience
[47:40] my message
[47:43] wow
[47:43] um
[47:45] don't ever give up
[47:48] on your vision
[47:50] there's always going to be those
[47:52] roadblocks there's going to be bad days
[47:54] there's going to be awful days there's
[47:56] going to be terrible days they're going
[47:57] to be happy days
[47:59] being an entrepreneur is
[48:01] one of the most
[48:04] uh arduous journeys i think any any any
[48:08] of us could be on it doesn't take uh
[48:11] just anybody to be an entrepreneur it
[48:14] takes a very special type of human
[48:17] but if that truly is your passion
[48:19] surround yourself with
[48:22] a tribe
[48:23] people who are in the same mindset
[48:26] people who can contribute in a positive
[48:28] way and support you
[48:31] in your vision because they're going to
[48:33] be a lot of people out there who are
[48:35] going to be the naysayers who are going
[48:37] to plant seeds of doubt in your mind and
[48:39] say
[48:40] you know is this ever going to work have
[48:42] you made your first sale um you know
[48:45] when are you going to make your millions
[48:47] all those kinds of things and if you get
[48:49] distracted by that noise it's going to
[48:52] affect you really really deeply here so
[48:54] yeah my biggest message would just be uh
[48:56] you know stay stay steadfast with your
[48:59] vision
[49:00] um and and definitely if you don't have
[49:03] personal development make sure that you
[49:05] get get tapped into some of that
[49:07] do those little uh rituals every day um
[49:10] and stay disciplined um
[49:12] and consistent
[49:15] thank you so much judy for your time
[49:17] here
[49:18] one minute so i think we are to the dot
[49:21] perfect yay we did it thanks for the
[49:23] opportunity i look forward to the final
[49:25] product
[49:37] you

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