Leilani Batty is a seasoned project management professional who heads the Project Management Office at Advent Hull. She is recognized as a rock star when it comes to planning, tracking, and achieving corporate goals, with extensive experience in portfolio and project planning.
Leilani takes a unique approach to goal setting by avoiding traditional New Year's resolutions, instead choosing to evaluate her goals around her birthday each year. "Goal should be something you're you should be evaluating on a regular continual basis," she explains. She breaks her life into distinct categories - spiritual, mental, physical, relationship, and professional - ensuring a holistic approach to personal development. For tracking, she relies on physical journals and creates vision boards, finding that "there's something about writing it versus you know typing it out that helps to really synthesize the information."
As someone who heads the project management office at her company, Leilani applies her professional planning skills to her personal life, serving as "the planner for everything in my household - vacation, social engagements, and family projects." She uses mind mapping techniques to generate ideas and recalibrate her direction, asking herself "what's going to inspire me next." Her tracking approach is event-driven rather than rigidly scheduled - she reflects quarterly around significant milestones like anniversaries and birthdays, while maintaining daily self-reflection on professional goals by asking "did this activity spark joy or am I feeling like I'm just going through the motions?"
Leilani's core advice centers on the importance of discovering your authentic passions rather than blindly climbing corporate ladders. She emphasizes the value of looking back at your life patterns: "The best way to do is to just keep watching your energy level, keep watching what you're enjoying... what are the activities that I keep going back to that gives you a passion." She encourages people to examine their 20-year history to identify recurring themes and interests that might reveal their true calling.
She stresses that finding purpose is an ongoing journey of self-discovery that requires "deep effort or looking deep within to find these things." Leilani acknowledges that life isn't linear, saying "life is not a straight linear line - it goes and branches off in different things depending on what you decide and choices you make." Her message is particularly urgent for those in mid-career: if people don't figure out their passion and purpose now, "they're going to figure it out in their 60s when they will not have this much luxury and flexibility of doing something on their side that can be lifelong." The conversation reinforces that many people share these same challenges and that it's never too late to start designing a more intentional life path.
"Goals should be something you should be evaluating on a regular continual basis... the intent is always the same as that spirit of continuous improvement."
— Leilani Batty Explaining why she doesn't do New Year's resolutions but instead evaluates goals around her birthday each year.
"To me retirement means I am financially independent to do whatever it is I want to do... retirement just means I have the freedom to decide whatever it is I want to do next."
— Leilani Batty Describing her FIRE (Financial Independence, Retire Early) goal and what true retirement means to her.
"There's something about writing it versus typing it out that helps to really synthesize the information."
— Leilani Batty Sharing her personal planning method and why she prefers handwritten journals over digital tools.
[0:00] in this video podcast [0:02] leilani and i are talking about goals we [0:05] are sharing how we identify [0:07] plan [0:08] and track our personal and professional [0:11] goals you will hear from leilani who is [0:13] a rock star when it comes to [0:17] planning tracking and achieving [0:19] corporate goals she is she is heading [0:21] the project management office at advent [0:24] hull i apologize for the video and audio [0:28] quality [0:29] but don't let it stop you [0:32] to extract all the gems from this video [0:35] so without any further delay let's get [0:37] into the conversation [0:40] do you do new year resolution or yearly [0:43] goal or fight for a goal and how do you [0:46] execute them [0:47] yeah you know for me i i don't really [0:50] typically do new year's resolutions [0:53] because it's to me it just seems very [0:55] cliche it's this isn't you know [0:57] goal should be something you're you [0:59] should be evaluating on a regular [1:00] continual basis [1:02] i actually look at at goals on you know [1:05] every birthday so i look at what i've [1:07] accomplished in you know my [1:09] 43rd birthday [1:11] and reflect upon that and say okay so my [1:13] now my 44th year or 45th year this is [1:16] what i hope to do to improve myself but [1:19] there's [1:20] regardless of when what the timing that [1:22] you do your goals the intent is always [1:24] the same as that spirit of continuous [1:26] improvement [1:27] how do you this [1:29] this feeling of being very self-aware of [1:32] your strengths and the areas that you [1:33] want to improve [1:35] uh but timing for me is usually around [1:38] the birthday [1:39] and [1:40] from a perfect from my from a personal [1:42] perspective [1:43] um and then from a you know professional [1:47] than with a team then i usually look at [1:49] it towards the end of the year like this [1:51] is the time of year where i would look [1:53] in my workplace and the team and the [1:55] people that i'm working with [1:57] to reflect back [1:59] and the only reason why is because we do [2:01] annual accountabilities we do an annual [2:04] performance or development conversation [2:06] so it syncs up with the timing with the [2:08] rest of the organization um you know [2:10] let's see as a team [2:12] um [2:13] what did we do that was well and what do [2:16] we want to continue and where are the [2:18] things that we're falling short on that [2:20] we want to improve and what are those [2:22] actual steps that we can take to improve [2:24] but [2:25] yeah i i like to look at my own personal [2:27] goals on a [2:29] around my birthday period [2:31] and there'll be things that are [2:35] that nurture me from a a spiritual [2:39] a mental [2:40] a a physical [2:44] and a relationship perspective you know [2:46] family relationships a spouse [2:47] relationship [2:49] friend relationship [2:51] and then obviously professional as well [2:54] so you basically go through different [2:56] categories of items like financial [2:59] and and health and [3:01] relationship and and then it goes for [3:04] each [3:05] i do you know i i look at [3:08] i i'm a firm believer of you know [3:11] designing your life path [3:14] and [3:14] uh you know looking at your life not [3:17] just most people just look at where [3:18] they're at professionally but you know [3:20] looking at your life holistically and [3:21] what are those things that align to your [3:23] values [3:24] and [3:26] you know for me one of my key values is [3:29] moderation and mental health and you [3:32] know followed by with that it's it's my [3:34] family [3:36] um professionals in there as well but [3:38] yes i look at it and i break it up by [3:40] categories i say how am i how am i doing [3:43] physically [3:44] uh do i need to look at you know [3:46] improving my diet uh or you know uh [3:51] improving you know my my workout and [3:53] exercise routine [3:55] um [3:56] and then i do look at my family [3:58] relationships what can i do to make sure [4:00] that the quality of time that i'm [4:01] spending with my husband and my son are [4:04] meaningful not so much the quantity [4:05] because my you know quantity of time is [4:07] dedicated to a lot of work and other [4:09] things [4:10] and i do look at professional where is [4:11] it i want to go am i doing things that [4:13] that you know bring me joy [4:16] and if not what is it i need to do to to [4:18] change things and then financially [4:20] i i have a financial goal i want to um [4:23] fire myself so financial independence [4:26] retire early it's what it stands for so [4:27] i want to do early retirement [4:30] so yes i i have a lot of goals and i [4:32] revisit it you know every year my [4:33] birthday and i i do checkpoints [4:36] throughout the year say hey you know [4:37] where am i at am i am i feeling i'm on [4:39] track [4:40] are you looking for a number or the age [4:43] i'm looking at an age [4:45] i mean number has a big part of it too [4:47] because [4:48] you know there there's certain i think [4:50] i have a financial advisor and they tell [4:52] you you know you want to make sure you [4:54] have certain amount available in your [4:57] portfolio in order for you to extract [4:59] upon [5:01] but for me it's it's really about an age [5:03] you know i i'd love to retire 10 years [5:05] from now [5:06] which will put me in my early 50s [5:09] that way and to me retirement means not [5:12] just being able to sit at home but [5:14] retirement to me means i am financially [5:16] independent to do whatever it is i want [5:18] to do [5:19] if i want to take a job at walmart as a [5:22] greeter i can do so if i want to [5:24] um or if i want to explore being a [5:27] consultant i could do that or if i want [5:29] to just do nothing but volunteer work i [5:31] can do that too just to me in retirement [5:33] just means i have the freedom to decide [5:35] whatever it is i want to do next right [5:38] right and sometimes i feel like i want [5:40] to [5:42] be a part-time in next few years so that [5:45] the rest of the time i can use for [5:47] whatever i want to do like writing [5:49] videos exactly that i want to do [5:54] and and ultimately [5:56] that side activity may earn me more [5:58] money um but obviously [6:02] the freedom to [6:04] not depend on the work because it's [6:07] paying money but because it gives so [6:10] much excitement on a daily basis [6:13] exactly [6:14] that's my thoughts exactly that's to me [6:15] what retirement is is there's this side [6:18] passion that you you want to [6:20] to develop but you know a lot of times [6:22] where you're tied to your day job [6:25] because that's what pays the bills [6:26] uh so you have to focus on that first [6:29] and but you know to me retirement means [6:31] okay well you know what i can do [6:32] whatever i want if i want to focus on my [6:34] side passion and let that be 100 of my [6:36] time then so be it [6:38] and somebody asked me today uh we were [6:40] just talking about my writing he has [6:42] been following me for last few years and [6:44] and he was commenting [6:46] that he liked my articles and his [6:49] question was [6:51] are you planning to do it full time [6:54] and i [6:56] i actually don't want to i don't want to [6:57] do anything full time [6:59] yeah [7:00] in few years i just want to do what [7:03] whenever i want to do [7:05] um [7:06] and [7:07] more value addition rather than thinking [7:11] if i do this much i will get this much [7:13] money back or something [7:16] to do that [7:18] you do it for the joy of it because [7:20] writing [7:21] um fuels your creative fire and i think [7:24] if you end up doing it full time then [7:26] that feels like more like an imposing [7:28] you're being forced to do it and that [7:30] kind of sucks the joy out of it [7:32] and honestly um for me writing and now [7:36] videos both of them are [7:38] me playing with the lego blocks so you [7:41] know how you connect multiple lego [7:43] blocks and and [7:45] the color combination sometimes the [7:48] piece combination and when the story is [7:50] done and published you feel exact same [7:52] type of joy that you get when you're [7:56] you you make a small lego block or a big [7:58] lego block [8:00] i agree it is fun it's a lot you know so [8:03] one of my the side things i enjoy doing [8:05] is [8:06] photography and cinematography [8:08] um i got into it as a uh just as a side [8:12] project in my previous my previous job [8:14] at universal we were doing a talent show [8:16] and so i purchased all this equipment i [8:18] taught myself how to do cinematography [8:20] and i understood about timing and and [8:22] creating be real roles and [8:24] and um you know composition of the frame [8:27] and storytelling and i really enjoyed it [8:30] it scratched that creative itch that you [8:33] know i had [8:34] and i want to do more of it but um [8:37] unfortunately you know my professional [8:39] day job takes up most of my time so it's [8:41] it's hard to do that [8:42] um but i i hear what you're saying is to [8:44] me it's if i have the freedom to do so [8:46] and i want to be forced to doing i just [8:48] want to do it [8:50] because i enjoy it [8:52] um [8:53] that's something i would look forward to [8:54] in retirement or whenever i can do it [8:58] in terms of planning and tracking [9:01] you you're helping the entire company [9:03] all the id projects are [9:05] managed by one of your team members so [9:07] you're absolutely excellent when it [9:10] comes to planning and tracking how do [9:13] you do that for your personal projects [9:16] well thank you i appreciate that [9:18] sometimes it doesn't feel that way but [9:19] the team does an amazing job and and [9:22] they make my job easier and so i'm [9:24] grateful to them for that [9:25] um but yeah i think you know you um in [9:29] order to do a good job uh you know being [9:31] a planner portfolio planner project [9:33] planner you have to have something of [9:35] that at home [9:37] and [9:38] i'm the planner for everything in my [9:39] household vacation social engagements [9:42] and [9:43] and you know family projects um and they [9:46] kind of expect that for me so it's it's [9:48] fine i enjoy it [9:50] i think for me how i keep track of it at [9:52] home it's i don't use any kind of [9:53] particular tools i keep a journal [9:56] um i have multiple journals as a matter [9:59] of fact [10:00] um you know i try to create vision [10:02] boards of you know where i want to see [10:04] myself retirement wise and [10:07] and things that i want to do [10:09] um [10:11] and i i just keep it very low keen you [10:13] know low effort in terms of of planning [10:16] for my goals and [10:18] and being able to write it down [10:21] there's something about writing it [10:23] versus you know typing it out that helps [10:25] to really synthesize the information so [10:28] when i use the journal and i kind of [10:29] write out my goals for the year and the [10:31] areas [10:32] um you know it helps and then i [10:35] i like to draw [10:37] so i do mind maps [10:39] and you know when i'm i'm looking at my [10:41] life and i'm trying to design my life [10:43] and kind of recalibrate where i'm going [10:46] um sometimes i'll do little mind maps to [10:48] say okay well what's going to inspire me [10:50] next [10:51] and that'll help me to kind of generate [10:53] some ideas of things that i want to try [10:55] differently not just from a professional [10:57] but maybe something to do with my family [10:59] or or [11:01] you know ideas to help improve my you [11:03] know uh physical well-being as well [11:07] for me writing on a paper or designing [11:09] my life on the paper [11:11] it feels so good but what if once i'm [11:14] done uh how am i going to protect it how [11:16] i'm going to save it for the future [11:19] what i have realized though in last two [11:21] months [11:22] that [11:23] i was preserving those two hour activity [11:27] or one hour activity that i did two [11:29] years ago i [11:31] what i'm doing now [11:32] is starting from scratch next time [11:36] and trying to see [11:38] what future pull for me rather than keep [11:41] looking at what i have designed two [11:43] years ago [11:46] i see [11:47] so [11:49] for me i i actually feel the opposite i [11:52] think using electronics i'm always [11:54] afraid that i'm going to break my laptop [11:57] or it's i'm going to get some kind of [11:59] you know virus or something that'll wipe [12:00] out my content so i'm always worried i [12:02] feel like if i have something hard and [12:03] tangible like a notebook [12:06] that i could you know from there i could [12:08] hand it off or pass it on you know from [12:11] a legacy perspective but [12:14] uh but you're right you could easily [12:16] lose a notebook you misplace it [12:18] somewhere or it gets damaged by water or [12:20] something [12:21] um [12:22] so yeah i and the truth is i i think [12:25] i don't know where the notebooks i have [12:27] created from two years ago actually are [12:30] uh to your point but do you feel that [12:33] you know what you started designing two [12:35] years ago have you changed a whole lot [12:37] what you originally were planning from [12:39] two years ago how much has your plan [12:41] changed [12:42] my last five year was drastically [12:44] changed everything changed my [12:47] perspective about my life my perspective [12:49] about what i wanted to be [12:51] and what i want to be now [12:53] has changed a lot [12:57] now if i look at the financial and [12:59] family those probably have not changed [13:01] that much but my own aspiration [13:04] for example [13:06] when you're in your early career you [13:08] have this set goal that you will be [13:10] senior you will be manager you will be [13:12] director and and who knows what [13:15] uh so my next thing was a director and [13:19] when i became a senior manager that was [13:21] the next thing [13:22] and i started deeply [13:25] kind of reviewing what i'm missing like [13:27] the leadership presence or executive [13:29] presence and presentation skill [13:32] and those was daunting thoughts [13:35] and i went through coaching and i went [13:39] mentoring with barrett coaching with [13:41] nikki and i have an eap engagement as [13:44] well so i've done a lot of things [13:46] just so i understand [13:48] who i am and what [13:50] excites me more and i [13:53] uh an activity that i did [13:56] where i went back to like 20 years in my [13:58] life and i started thinking what are the [14:00] activity that i did and i started with [14:03] that journal thinking [14:05] i started my blog and i left it i [14:08] started this website and i left it i [14:10] started this company and i didn't go to [14:12] the next level but then once i done with [14:15] this activity um i realized that these [14:18] are all the dots where [14:20] i keep going back to writing yeah [14:23] writing my high school to uh winning a [14:26] gold medal in in an essay competition to [14:28] my first block to my next blog to [14:31] all the activity that i've done so [14:33] somewhere i see that connection and then [14:36] on top of that not just writing [14:38] it's the result or or [14:42] the mind frame why i do that right yeah [14:45] or why it takes so many pictures why it [14:47] takes so many videos of we going to [14:50] travel or in office or anything right it [14:53] indicated [14:55] that [14:56] this may be something that i'm want to [14:59] do versus uh what i was thinking in [15:01] terms of the the vertical ladder of [15:04] becoming a director or something [15:06] so yes my perspective has changed and [15:09] i i am not planning big [15:12] in terms of what [15:14] 10 years will be but i know that [15:17] in next five year [15:19] if i can [15:20] i [15:21] want to [15:24] identify [15:25] and uh do more of that and probably be [15:28] part-time [15:30] yeah [15:32] i i i [15:34] i know exactly where you're coming from [15:36] because [15:37] the same you know has [15:39] occurred with me as well as [15:41] it's not so much a a corporate kind of [15:45] ambition that i have you know climbing [15:46] ladders and stuff like that and [15:48] um you know those opportunities come [15:51] that's that's great but that's that's [15:52] not something that i'm shooting for [15:55] um [15:56] and [15:57] you know i i look at the things that [15:59] spark joy those activities that i do [16:01] either throughout the day or things that [16:03] i used to do growing up [16:05] and like you said for you for writing uh [16:08] for me it's it's always been around the [16:11] arts and the visual [16:13] uh in high school i [16:15] uh i did a fashion show and i drew my [16:18] own designs [16:19] and my grandmother taught me how to sew [16:21] and i sewed my own office i always [16:22] wanted to be a fashion designer but [16:25] my mom said that won't pay the bills [16:26] don't you know you need to find don't be [16:28] a starving artist [16:30] so i after i got my computer science [16:32] degree i actually got an aaa in graphic [16:35] design and i really enjoyed it i love [16:37] the photography doing photoshopping you [16:40] know working you know in [16:42] illustrator and creating a lot of [16:44] designs [16:46] and you know part of that is there's [16:48] still that creative itch [16:50] that you know i still work on on the [16:53] side um i'm not sure what i can do with [16:56] it just yet that's why i'm still doing a [16:57] lot of mind mappings [17:00] and trying to find you know where can i [17:02] correlate those things that spark joy [17:03] and the things that i enjoy doing into [17:05] something that [17:07] um either it's full-time or something on [17:10] the side that brings in a little extra [17:12] money i'm not quite there yet [17:14] um i know i love creating presentations [17:18] because it gives me an opportunity to [17:19] create visuals and put a story together [17:22] visually [17:23] but um you know like like you as you [17:27] i know what i like to do i just trying [17:29] to figure out how do i incorporate that [17:32] into my my journey from where i'm at [17:34] right now [17:35] um and then the purpose of doing that [17:39] yep yeah how can i how can i extend my [17:42] talents into providing value to the [17:44] world to the world uh to the [17:46] organization or to anybody else [17:48] and you know bring value [17:51] you know uh speaking about the last five [17:53] years when we are in the college we have [17:55] a purpose so school gives you purpose [17:57] college gives you purpose when you're in [17:59] job [18:00] you have a purpose every day you know [18:02] what your deliverables are for example [18:04] or even in the career ladder you know [18:07] kind of the purpose [18:09] and [18:10] which is great right which is great that [18:13] half of your life is kind of planned um [18:16] you gave you purpose but at some point [18:18] you start thinking [18:20] right what what [18:22] what beyond this yeah once you're gonna [18:24] retire one day you're gonna change [18:28] um [18:29] and that's the hardest part [18:31] to when you start thinking about your [18:33] passion and purpose [18:35] uh that's where you kind of [18:37] get lost in [18:39] the thoughts [18:40] and [18:42] it's really [18:43] take deep effort or [18:46] looking deep within [18:48] to find [18:49] these things [18:50] and [18:51] i i think [18:53] the best way to do is to just keep [18:55] watching your energy label keep watching [18:57] you what you're enjoying just the [18:59] activity that i did 20 years what are [19:02] the activities that i keep going back to [19:04] that gives you a passion and then i do [19:06] know purpose right now but it could [19:09] change later and that's okay because [19:11] then you you're evolving as as an [19:13] individual and you're learning and [19:15] assimilating new things and so of course [19:17] you know life is not a straight linear [19:19] line it's it's it goes and branches off [19:22] in different things depending on what [19:23] you decide and choices you make [19:26] you do general [19:27] uh that's how you identify what what [19:30] your next goals and and things are how [19:33] frequently you track your goals are you [19:35] tracking like monthly quarterly i think [19:38] it depends um you know on how i'm [19:41] feeling or maybe there's certain things [19:43] that that happen that you know caused me [19:45] to kind of pause [19:47] um [19:49] i do try to at least [19:51] look at you know where i'm at on a [19:53] quarterly basis [19:54] uh for example [19:56] um you know on my anniversary with my [19:58] husband you know i'll i'll look at [20:01] you know how are we doing you know what [20:03] do we want to change in our relationship [20:04] you know are we on the on the right [20:06] track we've been married for 20 years [20:07] now i've known him for 26 years so [20:10] you know it's it's working [20:12] uh but you know it beyond the [20:13] anniversary i do we do check in and [20:16] you know touch base and the same thing [20:17] with my son and his birthdays and and on [20:20] school milestones all reflect and say [20:22] well you know am i doing what i need to [20:24] do as a parent is there something more [20:26] so maybe it's not on a set cadence but [20:28] usually certain things or events will [20:30] trigger me to kind of reflect back and [20:32] say okay [20:33] am i doing all that i can do or you know [20:35] what can we do to improve [20:37] um but i probably would say maybe it's [20:39] on a quarterly basis because that's when [20:41] a lot of these things typically happen [20:42] you know end of school year or [20:45] um [20:46] a you know holiday [20:48] um that will cause me to pause and [20:50] reflect professionally speaking you know [20:52] it's [20:53] those i i look at it you know [20:55] um [20:56] definitely on a birthday and on uh [21:00] probably a little bit more frequent [21:01] cadence because [21:03] uh you know i half of our lives are [21:05] dedicated to being in the office [21:08] so you know i'm always kind of looking [21:09] at myself and saying you know does did i [21:12] have a good day today you know what did [21:13] i accomplish today you know did this [21:15] activity spark joy or am i feeling like [21:17] i'm just going through the motions what [21:19] can i do to improve that [21:21] um so yeah [21:24] me and my wife does this yearly activity [21:26] that sometime in [21:28] december or january [21:31] where it started as the yearly budget is [21:35] sprinkler into the goals or long-term [21:38] goals and now we we just finish the [21:41] yearly and i'm [21:43] encouraging her to let's define next [21:46] five years [21:47] we said something yesterday and she [21:49] already seeing the pressure [21:52] can we do this actually [21:57] yeah but uh um going back to what you [22:00] were saying earlier this activity [22:02] happens on a physical notebook [22:05] um and we've been doing for like nine [22:07] eight nine years now [22:09] touch what many of those things that she [22:11] has wrote [22:13] uh be able to accomplish together [22:16] that's great [22:17] now [22:18] initially she wasn't that sure about [22:20] setting goals or writing something but [22:23] now [22:24] every time we do this activity she's [22:26] excited [22:27] that is great [22:28] yeah my my husband and i you know we we [22:31] look at things from a financial [22:32] perspective and [22:34] and we have a financial advisor so they [22:36] kind of force us to make sure that we [22:38] are financially revisiting our goals and [22:40] our milestones so that's very helpful [22:43] um [22:44] and i think uh [22:46] you know [22:47] from that perspective you know we we've [22:49] been able to to keep track of things i [22:51] know using electronic tools um [22:56] but you know what you hit on something [22:58] do you and your wife look at each [22:59] other's [23:01] um [23:02] kind of vision and and plans together [23:05] like as far as your journeys your growth [23:07] your professional your health and [23:09] and family journeys or is it mostly from [23:11] a financial perspective [23:14] so it started with financial but then [23:17] then we started adding some of the [23:19] dreams that she has related to [23:22] either achieving something or travel or [23:26] for example a few years ago she said i [23:29] want to get into this type of house [23:33] i love that and i think with this [23:35] five-year planning that we will do [23:38] we'll cover something that we haven't [23:40] done that each area of the life [23:43] what's the big thing for me or for her [23:46] i i love that that's one thing i'm i [23:48] don't currently do is [23:51] is share that that plan and kind of my [23:55] my goal and my approach with my husband [23:57] from a financial perspective yes and [23:59] um and then from our relationship [24:01] perspective we touch base on that but [24:03] beyond that you know [24:05] you know hobbies professional um [24:08] passions [24:09] and stuff like that that that is not [24:11] something that we have typically shared [24:13] together we know each other's interests [24:14] and hobbies but that's kind of it [24:17] that's a great idea [24:19] here's the thing big secret and i was [24:21] planning to create a video on this [24:24] if you want to kill your dream [24:27] tell that to your wife or respond [24:31] they know you for 20 years in my case 21 [24:33] years yeah they know everything about [24:36] you they know your threats for example [24:38] if i tell my wife [24:40] about youtube and i haven't told her but [24:42] she find out right she see what i'm [24:45] doing and she mentioned it couple of [24:47] times it's a mid-life crisis do you know [24:49] how long that middle-aged price left [24:52] second she said [24:54] you probably have seen some videos that [24:57] these youtubers are making money and now [25:00] you're trying that so they know [25:03] yeah what you have done what how long [25:05] you will go [25:06] so [25:08] some other thing i i also try not to [25:10] share [25:11] yeah and the youtube thing is i have not [25:14] shared with my wife i've not shared with [25:16] my uh family members [25:18] i you know you're you you have a really [25:19] good point because [25:20] earlier on and before i had our we had [25:23] our son i wanted to open up a wine store [25:27] and i had all these ideas of [25:29] entrepreneurial aspirations i wanted to [25:31] do and i shared it with my husband [25:33] and he's like he poo-pooed it like [25:34] that's too much money or there's other [25:36] places like that before and i'm like [25:39] and uh meanwhile these stores popped up [25:42] and they became pretty successful i'm [25:44] like see i could have done that [25:46] but anyways that's beside the point but [25:48] yeah i hear what you're saying is [25:49] sometimes they [25:50] they're um overly [25:52] overly realistic and maybe a little bit [25:55] too pessimistic um [25:57] but yeah they i know they look out for [25:59] the best interest but yeah they could [26:00] they could kill the dream [26:02] and [26:03] i guess we need them to be certain way [26:07] like [26:08] for example in this case um [26:11] we have our own scares right we're not [26:13] sure [26:14] whether or not and when when we see [26:16] something like this [26:19] you immediately get a excuse [26:22] yeah right [26:25] even if [26:26] this person was not there you would have [26:28] been in could have been in the same [26:30] situation [26:32] so what i have been trying is not to [26:34] share with anyone so if i don't do it i [26:38] have no one else to blame [26:39] right [26:41] that's that's true [26:43] yeah that's a very good point [26:46] our mind play [26:48] big games with us example when i started [26:51] writing and even with the youtube when [26:53] you make something and you you hit the [26:54] publish button [26:56] you have so much scare in your head and [26:58] your mind is telling [27:00] what if somebody find what if they find [27:02] you grammatical mistake what if are you [27:04] even that expert so you you hit publish [27:07] you fight uh fought with all this and [27:10] you hit publish and then [27:11] a week later your mind is telling [27:14] nobody's reading this article [27:17] why are you writing [27:20] right because [27:22] and i tell my mind myself so isn't this [27:24] a good thing [27:26] because a week before you were saying [27:28] people will find out people will tell [27:30] you [27:31] um and now nobody's reading so there is [27:33] no harm in publishing more right [27:36] right but mind is tricking us all the [27:38] time yeah you have to be able to work [27:41] with that inner critic [27:43] right so [27:45] well i know i've taken a lot more time [27:47] than i originally planned for i don't [27:49] mind it's it's a good topic and and a [27:51] great conversation is something that i'm [27:53] always thinking about you know in fact i [27:55] was thinking about it this weekend i was [27:57] looking at my [27:58] my goals and my aspirations from a [28:00] professional perspective and [28:02] and thinking you know how do i start [28:04] living my life with you know more [28:06] purpose and providing value to the world [28:08] and am i doing things that i really [28:10] enjoy so [28:11] no your your [28:13] your conversation this meeting was [28:15] perfect timing [28:16] if somebody can listen to whatever we [28:18] talk there's so much value in it [28:21] because i know is you and i are [28:24] our fault are going through a journey [28:26] right now that so many other people are [28:28] going through as well this is a very [28:30] common theme a lot of people think about [28:32] it so [28:33] um [28:34] i think if anything those that do watch [28:36] this would know that hey you know what [28:38] i'm not alone a lot of people have the [28:39] same challenges and thinking as as i do [28:42] we do [28:43] and if you don't figure this out and if [28:46] people don't figure this out they're [28:47] going to figure it out in their 60s when [28:50] they will not have this much luxury and [28:52] flexibility of doing something on their [28:55] side that [28:57] can be [28:58] lifelong [28:59] agreed [29:00] yeah [29:01] cool [29:02] great [29:03] thank you so much [29:05] yeah thanks minute i appreciate the time [29:07] and and love sharing this topic with you [29:09] and i'm like i told you last time if [29:11] anything else you know you have any [29:12] other questions for me i'd love to talk [29:14] about it more yeah i would like to [29:16] reconnect so let me plan out that and [29:18] then we talk about that topic then [29:21] sounds good [29:22] all right thanks [29:24] bye
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