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Episode 733:14

#8 Omar & Huong: How can Parents Help Their High School Child With College Admission & Scholarship

Episode Summary

  • Omar shares his initial misconception that college was financially out of reach, discovering that local universities like UCF cost around $30,000 for the entire degree when living at home.
  • The discussion covers various scholarship opportunities available to all students, not just high achievers, including local, national, and state-specific programs like Florida's Bright Futures.
  • The importance of FAFSA (Free Application for Federal Student Aid) is emphasized as a critical requirement for accessing both scholarships and grants, not just loans.
  • Practical strategies are shared for managing the scholarship application process, including using one-stop scholarship websites and having parents act as project managers.
  • The community college pathway is discussed as a cost-effective option for completing the first two years before transferring to a four-year university.

Key Takeaways

  1. Calculate the hourly value of scholarship applications by comparing potential awards to minimum wage work hours to motivate students to apply.
  2. Start preparing for Bright Futures scholarship early in high school by tracking required credit hours, GPA requirements, and community service hours.
  3. Fill out FAFSA regardless of family income level, as it's required for accessing all forms of financial aid including free grants and scholarships.
  4. Parents should act as project managers by screening scholarship opportunities and presenting only relevant matches to their children to reduce overwhelm.
  5. Consider starting at a community college for the first two years to reduce costs and allow time for career exploration before transferring to a four-year university.

Productivity & Success Habits

Omar and Huong demonstrate a highly organized, teamwork-based approach to managing the complex college preparation process. They emphasize breaking down overwhelming tasks into manageable monthly goals, with Omar noting the importance of setting "weekly or monthly goals" where families can focus on "the top three things we will do between you your wife and your son" each month. This systematic approach prevents the process from becoming too overwhelming for students.

Their productivity strategy centers on smart delegation and project management. Huong shares how Vinny's wife acted as a "project manager" by screening scholarship opportunities and only sending relevant matches to their son, significantly reducing his workload. As Huong explains, "if you ask kid to do this entire process they're probably not gonna do that but what she was doing she was minimizing the work." This approach recognizes that parents should "consider yourself their assistant or project manager or whatever it is but it's a teamwork" rather than expecting students to handle everything independently.

They also advocate for early preparation and long-term planning, particularly with their four-year high school roadmap that starts from freshman year. Omar learned the importance of starting scholarship applications early, especially for programs like Bright Futures that require years of preparation. Their time management philosophy includes prioritizing high-impact activities first - with Bright Futures as priority one, FAFSA as priority two, and other scholarships following in sequence.

Final Thoughts & Advice

Huong's closing advice emphasizes the critical importance of parental involvement during the senior year: "my advice because i had many challenging experiences as a parent with a senior in high school twice once with my son and one with my daughter is for you to stay close to them." She stresses that the college application process "can be very consuming and so many details and it takes several pairs of eyes especially for parents with the you know the first child going to college."

The key wisdom shared centers on proactive communication with school counselors and staying informed. Huong recommends asking open-ended questions like "please keep me posted" and "invite me to all the events" because "a lot of times we don't know what question to ask." She emphasizes that "the closer you are to him in the process the better," acknowledging that it's easy to miss important details in such a complex process.

Both guests conclude with encouragement about the available resources and opportunities. Omar reflects on how his initial belief that "college was totally out of reach" was transformed through proper research and guidance. They emphasize that with the right approach, scholarships and financial aid can make college much more affordable than many parents realize, but it requires dedicated teamwork between parents and students to navigate the system successfully.

Notable Quotes

"Think about that for a minute - how long will it take you to make that $30,000 working at $15 an hour? It's going to take you at least a year... compare that to if it takes you even 10 hours writing a paper or writing an essay, why not?"

Omar Omar explaining to his son why applying for scholarships is worth the time investment compared to working minimum wage jobs.

"I thought college was totally out of reach... I don't have a hundred, hundred and fifty thousand dollars laying around just for you to test out college and see if you like it or not."

Omar Omar sharing his initial misconception about college costs before learning about more affordable options and financial aid.

"There are scholarships open for everybody... it changes based on your academic background, racial background - there are a lot of opportunities for so many other people."

Huong Huong correcting Omar's assumption that scholarships are only for exceptionally smart students.

Episode transcript
[0:00] is your child is in high school
[0:04] if yes then please do watch this video
[0:07] because we are discussing how you as a
[0:10] parent can help
[0:11] your child
[0:13] with college admissions the topic that
[0:16] we will be covering in this video
[0:19] college admission scholarship fafsa we
[0:22] will also talk about a college roadmap
[0:24] that you can follow for four years
[0:27] and guide
[0:29] yourself as a parent as well as your
[0:32] child
[0:33] to prepare themselves for the college
[0:35] admission
[0:41] this channel where i talk about uh
[0:44] career i talk about people from their
[0:47] high school to wherever they are in the
[0:49] career as
[0:50] parents doing
[0:52] so many things for ourselves to to build
[0:55] our career we also have our kid and
[0:59] responsibility where we are trying to
[1:01] help them
[1:02] to begin their career and
[1:05] there are so many things that we can do
[1:07] as a parent especially when they are in
[1:10] high school prepare them
[1:13] for the college admission and then
[1:15] actually go through the college where
[1:17] they are not only gaining the knowledge
[1:19] but they are also building their own
[1:21] character their own
[1:23] inspiration and
[1:25] trying to kind of prepare themselves for
[1:27] next 30 years
[1:30] so
[1:31] do you want to add anything to that
[1:34] no i think vinnie you captured that very
[1:37] well
[1:38] you and i have been working together for
[1:40] almost five years now with the
[1:43] college and career center at seminole
[1:45] high school and i think that going
[1:47] forward we can extract a lot of that
[1:50] experience to help
[1:52] parents and students that coming up in
[1:54] the future so really appreciate what
[1:56] you're doing vinnie
[2:02] i can start like with just a part of
[2:04] like i thought college was totally out
[2:06] of reach so yeah share that omar
[2:09] so that was like the first thing i
[2:12] when i was talking to with my son and
[2:13] thank god i have three kids and i was
[2:15] talking with my oldest i told him you
[2:16] know i can't you know i'll do my best to
[2:18] help you of course go to college and all
[2:20] that but i don't have a hundred hundred
[2:22] and fifty thousand dollars laying around
[2:24] just for you to you know kind of test
[2:26] out college and see if you like it or
[2:27] not
[2:28] um but then when when i started doing
[2:31] the research start actually calling like
[2:33] the the schools around me and i found
[2:36] you know that the ucf
[2:37] you know a full college
[2:39] they their actual tuition i think was
[2:42] around 30 000 for the whole degree i
[2:44] think it's like four or five years
[2:46] and the rest was for them boarding so i
[2:50] was like well why why you know why leave
[2:52] the house why don't you stay with us i
[2:53] know that's the cool thing to do
[2:55] and and have that cool you know
[2:57] experience with your friends but why
[2:58] don't you stay with us
[2:59] and
[3:01] save that money and then now we focus
[3:03] only on thirty thousand of that
[3:05] so we started you know working on that
[3:07] but then that's when hung and i started
[3:10] talking and then hong kong was like no
[3:11] no no no no no no no no no no no wait
[3:12] there is scholarships i was like yeah
[3:14] but scholarship is supposed to be like
[3:15] for super smart people and she's like no
[3:17] no these scholarships are open for
[3:18] everybody and then it you know it
[3:20] changes based on of course your your
[3:22] academic background uh racial background
[3:25] all that so there is a lot of
[3:26] opportunities for for so many other
[3:28] people
[3:29] so that's where i had no idea i heard of
[3:32] course about it before but i didn't know
[3:34] that it helped that much most of the
[3:36] time when you hear of a scholarship it's
[3:38] you know a thousand dollar here or there
[3:39] but for it to cover
[3:41] a big chunk of of that 30 000 that's
[3:44] that's a huge factor and that doesn't
[3:46] even include the other scholarship the
[3:48] one that you told me about
[3:49] i can't pronounce
[3:52] um that's the better kiss though
[3:54] yes then it kissed one
[3:57] so that one even that's even better but
[3:59] that one that the trick with that one is
[4:02] we got to start at the beginning of high
[4:04] school so i met with my wife met with
[4:07] mike also with with the other kids like
[4:08] all right we couldn't make it with with
[4:10] the old one but at least for the other
[4:12] two
[4:13] let's you know look into that and see
[4:14] how we can
[4:15] apply for that and again another way to
[4:18] look at things that i was actually
[4:19] telling my son today
[4:21] um a lot of time people like oh i don't
[4:23] want to apply for a scholarship
[4:25] how long this is going to take me i
[4:26] don't like writing this much and an end
[4:28] as of well think about that for a minute
[4:31] how much
[4:32] you know for you to go work at a place
[4:34] and let's say that you're going to work
[4:35] you know a really neat starting job 15
[4:38] an hour
[4:39] how much that's gonna you know give you
[4:41] how long will it take you to make that
[4:42] 30 000
[4:44] it's going to take you at least a year
[4:45] if you're making 15 an hour multiply
[4:47] that by 40 by 52 weeks that's 30 000 for
[4:51] a year not including any of the taxes or
[4:53] the fees so that's assuming full money
[4:55] come into your pocket compare that to if
[4:58] it takes you even 10 hours
[4:59] writing a paper or writing an essay why
[5:02] not
[5:04] so
[5:06] that was a
[5:07] hopefully an eye-opener for my son
[5:10] to encourage him to to to you know to
[5:13] to apply for all these scholarships and
[5:15] again if he applies for 10 and he gets
[5:17] one and that will be the one that will
[5:19] pay that much even you know where even
[5:22] that thousand dollar scholarship it's
[5:24] still worth it thousand dollars again
[5:26] multiply the number of hours that you
[5:27] don't mind working at so in soleplays
[5:30] and making that 15 even 20 an hour it's
[5:33] still you spend a couple of hours and if
[5:35] you can get that grant
[5:37] that's that's way better
[5:39] i i agree so much with that omar and i
[5:42] have the same conversation with my
[5:43] children so i think when it comes to
[5:45] parents we all agree
[5:47] that um just sitting down spending an
[5:50] hour writing that essay submit the
[5:53] scholarship application uh it could be
[5:56] you know 10 50 100 hours of working
[5:59] minimum wage right if you get a thousand
[6:02] dollars or 2 000
[6:04] um so the point that vinnie and i've
[6:06] been trying to share with parents in the
[6:08] last many years is that there are a list
[6:11] of scholarships out there
[6:13] for every county um seminole county
[6:15] school board there's that um orange
[6:18] county school board so everywhere you
[6:21] have this list of scholarships for local
[6:24] scholarships that you can apply for in
[6:27] addition to all the national ones so
[6:29] it's just a matter of looking through
[6:32] choosing the one that fits your criteria
[6:35] and uh and apply but on top of all that
[6:38] exactly like you said omar there's
[6:40] bright futures
[6:42] uh for the state of florida
[6:44] and that's not a scholarship that you
[6:47] apply
[6:48] it's a
[6:49] almost like a three four years of
[6:51] preparation in high school right so you
[6:54] have to meet all the credit hours you
[6:57] have to have a certain gpa and then they
[6:59] have three levels so if you don't meet
[7:00] one you can meet the one lower etc and
[7:04] then the community service hours that
[7:06] you need to
[7:08] qualify as well so if you are aware and
[7:11] you prepare it's very easy to get from
[7:14] for many of the florida students
[7:20] another idea we're thinking of we don't
[7:21] know i don't know if it has any
[7:23] disadvantages but i told them look why
[7:25] don't we start with the community
[7:26] college you have to do these classes
[7:28] anyhow one is cheaper than the regular
[7:30] caller two it gives you a year or two
[7:33] actually i think two years for you to go
[7:35] figure out what you want to get into
[7:37] do the training do the volunteering get
[7:40] to meet with more people and it gives
[7:42] you at least a chance for you to go
[7:44] through
[7:44] at least two years before you make that
[7:46] decision and then god willing at that
[7:48] point you can go to ucf and then focus
[7:51] on the career that you want
[7:53] i think that's a great suggestion i i
[7:55] think that that is perfect for him to to
[7:59] try out college and then like you said
[8:02] continue the conversation and and um
[8:05] seeking out advice
[8:06] um from either ucf from other people
[8:10] that he knows i think that's a great
[8:12] path
[8:13] florida state community college and ucf
[8:15] are tightly integrated with each other
[8:17] so they support that you do
[8:20] the first two years in the florida
[8:23] state college
[8:24] which is as you said much cheaper
[8:27] and then
[8:28] there is the transition from there to
[8:30] ucf um
[8:32] as far as that mission is concerned
[8:35] so many people are actually adopting
[8:37] that
[8:38] i know somebody with the family
[8:41] they adopted that
[8:43] procedure where their son is going to
[8:45] the florida state college for first two
[8:47] years and then from there go to the ucl
[8:53] omar i mentioned the fafsa right
[8:56] f-a-f-s-a yes so that's very critical
[9:00] for all seniors in high school to start
[9:02] looking at filling out
[9:05] at seminole high school
[9:07] there are not only two major events for
[9:11] seniors
[9:12] in regards to financial aid one is to
[9:15] assist the students to fill out the
[9:17] fafsa it's always a big event during the
[9:20] year because it's so important and all
[9:23] the students regardless of the you know
[9:26] parents income etc uh um encouraged to
[9:30] fill out the fafsa so that's
[9:32] very important and the second event is
[9:35] about bright futures um so every time we
[9:38] have a financial aid night
[9:40] we focus on those two things
[9:43] um helping the students to complete the
[9:45] fafsa and helping the students to apply
[9:49] for bright futures
[9:51] fafsa is one application
[9:54] that
[9:55] you fill
[9:57] for all the the scholarship
[10:00] as well as all the uh the loans even
[10:03] though you don't
[10:04] have to take loan or you're not planning
[10:06] to take loan you still have to fill this
[10:09] application so that you can
[10:11] you can get scholarship money
[10:13] so that's kind of the tricky part so
[10:16] whenever when you submit and when they
[10:18] then
[10:19] send you later for you qualify for this
[10:21] grant be sure
[10:23] that the grant is the actually free
[10:25] money or is the loan
[10:27] because you definitely don't want to
[10:29] take loan um but then the free money
[10:32] that they they will give in terms of the
[10:34] scholarship that was the wrong
[10:36] perception that i had with fafsa every
[10:37] time i i read it i thought it was only
[10:40] for for like money borrowing i didn't
[10:42] know that that was also part of the
[10:44] actual grant you know kind of requesting
[10:47] process yeah and if if you don't fill
[10:49] fafsa then you won't get any any
[10:52] scholarship any grants
[10:53] exactly exactly so that's why it's a
[10:56] very beginning of of everything um
[10:59] yes yes
[11:01] um so besides the fafsa um once you've
[11:04] done with the fafsa and bright futures
[11:07] and just to notice that there's a lot of
[11:09] details to look into
[11:11] so that's why the event session to teach
[11:13] the kids how to fill out the fafsa
[11:16] because you have to have all the parents
[11:18] information at your fingertips before
[11:21] you figure it out
[11:22] the kind of
[11:23] id and things that you put in it's gonna
[11:26] stay there forever because the fafsa
[11:28] need to be reviewed every year when
[11:30] they're in college if they want to
[11:32] continue receiving the grant or the
[11:35] scholarship so whatever you put in it
[11:37] has to be very thoughtful very accurate
[11:39] um you know a lot of things will cross
[11:42] with the irs as far as income and tax um
[11:45] so it is a process in itself um omar
[11:48] some preparation that's required um so
[11:51] there's the fafsa the bright future is
[11:53] the same as you looked up and you saw
[11:55] omar there's a number of
[11:57] credit hours the gpa
[12:00] and also we mentioned the
[12:03] community service hours
[12:05] and then for say like for the community
[12:08] service hours they have to be
[12:10] acknowledged and signed by
[12:12] teachers at the school
[12:14] so again in itself is a process you know
[12:16] every few months the students have to
[12:18] fill out a form
[12:20] for the counselor or the teacher
[12:23] the people who acknowledge their service
[12:26] have to sign and then the counselors
[12:28] have to sign um so that's that
[12:31] is that part
[12:32] but on top of that there's also websites
[12:35] out there for scholarship
[12:39] it's like a one-stop shop for
[12:41] scholarship that makes it really nice so
[12:43] if you go on these websites and you fill
[12:46] out all of the students information
[12:49] then it will go out and match you
[12:52] um
[12:53] with the criteria um that fit your um
[12:58] whatever you know race or ethnicity or
[13:01] um and then it will point you to the
[13:04] scholarships to apply and it will remind
[13:06] you every day this scholarship is due
[13:09] you know um december first the next one
[13:12] will do february first so it's extremely
[13:15] helpful um so that's something to to
[13:17] keep in mind as well for scholarships
[13:20] thank you for that i didn't know about
[13:21] the yeah one shop
[13:22] website because that's usually very
[13:23] exhausting like oh i have to go to like
[13:25] 17 websites i try to fill up my
[13:27] information everywhere but this helps a
[13:29] lot
[13:30] i still receive the email every day for
[13:32] for my daughter they keep sending me
[13:34] things and the reason because even when
[13:37] the the students in college they can
[13:39] still continue applying for scholarship
[13:42] it doesn't end when you finish high
[13:44] school
[13:46] um omar as we speak i keep thinking
[13:49] about things that was helpful for me
[13:52] so i'm gonna put in the chat another one
[13:55] um this one
[13:57] they have been sending me things
[14:00] in the last four years and uh i use that
[14:04] to it's called collegevine.com
[14:07] um
[14:08] yeah so a lot of things that are free
[14:11] you know if you want to pay you can pay
[14:13] and they assigned you a counselor to
[14:15] work with for college admission but a
[14:17] lot of the emails if you sign up just
[14:19] for emails i find so much useful and
[14:22] timely information with this
[14:25] organization so call it fine.com if you
[14:28] can go on sign up with them they send
[14:31] you very frequent emails and tips for
[14:34] everything s-a-t a-c-t how to apply for
[14:37] college what are the work around for
[14:40] different things um so yeah that's
[14:42] another useful resource
[14:44] yeah
[14:45] thank you very much
[14:49] nice and i remember that
[14:52] when when vedic was in 11th and 12th
[14:54] grade my wife has set up these rules and
[14:57] she was receiving emails um what she was
[15:00] doing
[15:01] she would
[15:03] do the job of the screening
[15:05] and then whatever she think is matching
[15:08] to vedic my son
[15:10] she would send those
[15:12] to vedic and then she will ask him to
[15:15] apply
[15:16] but by doing this she was reducing the
[15:19] time that vedic will have to spend
[15:21] otherwise going through this website and
[15:24] finding what matters or what matching to
[15:27] him and then do all the work to apply it
[15:30] so
[15:31] if you ask kid to do this entire process
[15:34] they're probably not gonna do that but
[15:36] what she was doing she was minimizing
[15:38] the work and then she was uh kind of
[15:41] asking him that this is um this is the
[15:44] match and and see if if they're actually
[15:47] the match and and if it is then then
[15:49] apply
[15:52] which he was being a project manager i
[15:54] guess at that point
[15:56] for my son to to do certain activity
[15:59] every week
[16:00] and it can be very overwhelming the
[16:03] senior year in high school you know
[16:05] there's so many things that they have to
[16:06] do the college application process is
[16:09] very involved trying to finish up all
[16:12] the required courses for graduation
[16:15] and then all the things that we're
[16:16] talking about now it can be very
[16:18] overwhelming for them
[16:22] um so omar i just put in the chat the
[16:24] link for the fast web for the
[16:25] scholarship
[16:26] thank you thank you very much
[16:28] i i think so too um so omar as far as
[16:32] bright future i think that would be the
[16:34] most urgent at this point
[16:36] for your older son so i would recommend
[16:39] looking at the bright future
[16:41] requirements right now
[16:43] and try to match that with his
[16:44] transcript right like you know all the
[16:47] courses
[16:48] um look at the gpa because like i said i
[16:51] think they're like three different
[16:52] levels like it will pay 100 or 75 or 50
[16:56] based on the gpa
[16:58] and then look at the requirement for the
[17:00] community service hours and see how much
[17:04] can he speed up to meet all the
[17:07] requirements by
[17:09] graduation like for this year of 2021
[17:12] the deadline for applying for bright
[17:14] future is not until end of august so if
[17:18] they keep that for 2022 he still have
[17:20] time until end of august 2022 to meet
[17:24] all the requirements
[17:26] it's a good idea also what you guys said
[17:28] about
[17:29] because i'm thinking like i'm gonna tell
[17:30] him but he has to figure out he has to
[17:32] go and fill it up but you guys are right
[17:34] like that it's very hard for them to to
[17:36] do all that work but if i split it kind
[17:38] of with him
[17:39] do some part and like i'll you know i'll
[17:42] meet you halfway or meet me halfway i'll
[17:44] i'll do one part but you got to do your
[17:46] part too so yeah that's that's a very
[17:48] good point
[17:50] yes yes and you know just like you know
[17:53] um vinny's wife i i had to jump in and
[17:56] you know do certain things too because
[17:58] when you see them drowning
[18:00] my daughter was an ibm which he was
[18:02] definitely drowning the last year of
[18:04] high school
[18:06] you just have to stand by and help them
[18:09] with whatever you know
[18:10] especially the administrative kind of
[18:13] work yeah the the research for
[18:16] scholarship and that type of thing it
[18:17] can be overwhelming
[18:20] yeah consider yourself their assistant
[18:22] or project manager or whatever it is but
[18:24] it's a teamwork
[18:26] yeah
[18:28] one more comment on the the scholarship
[18:30] when you look at these a scholarship
[18:32] um there are national label scholarship
[18:36] and then there are local scholarship and
[18:38] local scholarship could be a county
[18:41] label where you only have seven school
[18:44] who can participate
[18:46] it could be local
[18:48] that a dentist around your area is
[18:51] giving a thousand dollar scholarship for
[18:54] anybody who is interested in him in
[18:57] science field
[18:59] all these scholarship
[19:01] what they ask for
[19:03] is uh
[19:04] you
[19:05] will go to a a science college right um
[19:08] engineering or something or whatever
[19:11] and then you're writing an essay
[19:14] for whatever
[19:15] a topic that they have and most of the
[19:18] time
[19:18] it
[19:19] um these
[19:22] essays include
[19:24] about you who you are
[19:26] so you're writing about yourself you're
[19:28] writing about uh why you want to be
[19:31] uh
[19:32] an engineer or why you want to be in
[19:34] science why you like it so all that
[19:37] you write once it will be hard it will
[19:40] be tedious because you have to go deeper
[19:42] into yourself to understand really the
[19:45] real meanings of all these questions
[19:48] and what why
[19:51] what they mean to you
[19:53] but once you're done with it
[19:56] the next application and the the next
[19:59] application would be easier because
[20:02] the core part will be there and you will
[20:04] be tweaking or adding
[20:06] additional items based on um
[20:10] what a specific thing that they are
[20:11] asking for looking for the number of
[20:14] hours that you spend and if you get one
[20:16] two or five a scholarship
[20:19] the effort that you write may if you're
[20:21] putting to write these essays and
[20:23] application
[20:24] is
[20:25] really productive it's really
[20:27] so oma i just sent you the link this is
[20:30] seminole county public schools
[20:32] scholarship opportunities and if you
[20:34] scroll through there are a variety
[20:36] between 1 000 to 10 000 scholarships um
[20:40] many of them are local just like vinnie
[20:42] said
[20:43] um so
[20:44] you can use this because
[20:47] they could apply to any county basically
[20:51] um
[20:52] or
[20:53] you can also go to the counselor at your
[20:55] son's school or your son should go and
[20:58] ask
[20:59] um you know
[21:00] it's an equivalent list for orange
[21:02] county um and then look through them and
[21:05] see what's um applicable
[21:08] they'll be great yeah because every time
[21:10] i ask him so how did it go
[21:12] did you talk to anybody they weren't
[21:14] there like oh did you set up time with
[21:15] them they weren't there
[21:17] email them oh i didn't think about that
[21:20] come on
[21:21] right right and and you know um
[21:25] to his defense they're just a few
[21:28] counselors in the school right
[21:30] so but like vinnie said if if
[21:33] you know the student reaches out and and
[21:35] makes an appointment um you know go you
[21:38] know visit
[21:40] or attend these events
[21:42] there's a lot of information that they
[21:44] can share
[21:45] so i really encourage um all parents to
[21:48] stay in touch with the counselors in
[21:50] school they they're very helpful
[21:53] um then they're just so much information
[21:56] out there omar
[21:59] do you want to share the roadmap
[22:04] great um so what you're looking at here
[22:07] are the four rows one for each great
[22:09] right so we start with the on the top
[22:12] it's a senior so with your second son
[22:14] you want to start from the very last row
[22:16] and and and um go upward
[22:20] um so so what you're looking at here is
[22:23] the
[22:23] majority can you see or is it blurry
[22:28] yeah because it's very good for me you
[22:29] see okay yeah so at the very bottom yeah
[22:33] thank you for making that bigger
[22:36] um you see um create a four year high
[22:39] school plan
[22:41] consult with the counselor so we just
[22:43] talked about that from the very
[22:45] beginning you want to get to know the
[22:47] counselors in the high school yeah get
[22:49] to know them because you're going to be
[22:50] working with them for four years
[22:53] what do we mean by create a four-year
[22:55] high school plan you know when you look
[22:57] at the curriculum to finish high school
[23:00] i don't know about the school where your
[23:02] children go but at seminole high school
[23:04] there are many tracks that they can
[23:06] choose from they can be in ib
[23:09] international baccalaureate or they can
[23:11] be in the health
[23:14] academy if they want to go into a health
[23:17] care field
[23:18] or they can be traditional or they're
[23:22] a couple of other paths that they can
[23:24] take so
[23:25] depending on the interest of your son
[23:28] you can talk to the counselors to
[23:30] understand what are these tracks and
[23:32] help him select one and he can change
[23:35] later it's not you know
[23:37] coffin stone but at least to get him to
[23:40] start thinking about his interest
[23:42] and then create the um
[23:45] the the classes for each year so that's
[23:48] the four year high school plan
[23:50] and then we have research career choices
[23:53] i always tell parents that it's never
[23:56] too early to ask the children to think
[23:59] about what they want to do in their life
[24:00] because it takes a long time for them to
[24:02] think about it but the sooner you get
[24:04] them thinking the better but then i i um
[24:08] stress the word caution there too right
[24:11] so as parents we want to tell our
[24:14] children okay if you want to be a doctor
[24:16] these are the number of years in school
[24:18] and these are the costs if you want to
[24:20] be an engineer or a car mechanic or a
[24:24] dentist or whatever these are the
[24:27] choices
[24:28] and these are the costs so that they can
[24:31] start thinking the way we think you know
[24:33] there's costs and and benefit to
[24:36] everything that we do
[24:38] another link that i would send to you
[24:40] omar which i think very helpful for
[24:43] parents
[24:44] is from the department of labor
[24:46] um
[24:47] they list our hundreds and hundreds of
[24:50] occupation and the most current salary
[24:53] for each of them
[24:55] um so i think it's very eye-opening for
[24:57] students to look at these things and and
[24:59] you know just to have an idea
[25:01] um the next um
[25:04] item that i have prepared for the psat
[25:06] and this is the um what we talked about
[25:09] the benecisto scholarship
[25:11] the bene crystal um is
[25:15] um
[25:16] it's really based on the psat
[25:19] and that you take at the beginning of
[25:22] sophomore year so we want our freshmen
[25:24] to prepare for that to start
[25:28] practicing with the psat
[25:31] take challenging classes
[25:33] maintain a good gpa
[25:35] participate in extracurricular
[25:37] activities
[25:39] and community service develop leadership
[25:42] skills um explore summer programs so
[25:45] starting right between the summer
[25:48] between freshmen and sophomore year you
[25:50] want them to do some sort of community
[25:52] service or do internships even unpaid
[25:56] internship and on this i want to share
[25:58] something omar
[26:00] every year almost every high school that
[26:03] i know have an internship fair
[26:06] and they only do it once a year so you
[26:08] have to know when it is
[26:10] you're lucky if they have it twice once
[26:12] in the fall and one in the spring but
[26:14] sometimes they only have it once so you
[26:17] need to get into that fair and you know
[26:20] it help the students learn how to
[26:23] interview how to present themselves how
[26:26] to dress up how to talk to people
[26:29] etc how to create a resume and bring the
[26:32] resume with them to this fair with many
[26:35] employers
[26:37] the city so it's a really good practice
[26:40] um so that's what that is about summer
[26:43] program
[26:44] internship
[26:46] and then um start working with their
[26:48] parents and their counselors
[26:51] a financial
[26:53] aspect of college
[26:55] so that's what we want the freshmen in
[26:57] high school to start thinking about and
[26:59] start preparing
[27:01] and then the rest of the
[27:04] items
[27:05] uh going from sophomore to junior and
[27:08] senior are very similar um omar if you
[27:11] look at them they are very similar it
[27:14] just become more and more focused when
[27:16] you um go toward being a senior
[27:20] but
[27:21] we want them to keep doing the same
[27:23] thing every year but more focused
[27:26] and with more knowledge so that when
[27:28] they are senior in high school they are
[27:30] a hundred percent
[27:32] prepared this is perfect thank you thank
[27:35] you
[27:38] so now omar you have your work cut out
[27:40] for you for your second son
[27:45] your next four years are planned
[27:51] and and by the time you get to your
[27:53] daughter you can do this with your close
[27:55] eyes yeah
[27:58] is there anything else omar that could
[28:00] be helpful at this point no the part
[28:03] that i thought that i can be hands off
[28:05] and just kind of like
[28:06] it's your job now take responsibility
[28:10] that doesn't really work out i gotta
[28:11] like actually
[28:13] not do it for him but at least kind of
[28:15] guide him through it so omar you have
[28:18] our ears if you need anything holler we
[28:22] will make it a challenge for you now
[28:24] omar that you're gonna
[28:26] you know make all the resources
[28:28] available to your sons
[28:30] and you know hopefully they can take
[28:33] advantage of them
[28:35] yeah and let me know if you guys need
[28:37] help like what with what you know what
[28:39] you both did
[28:40] really helps a lot and i'm sure a lot
[28:42] more
[28:42] people i'm sure that vent health and
[28:45] others
[28:46] will really benefit from from this that
[28:48] is so true it's so true omar uh in my
[28:51] experience especially when vinnie and i
[28:54] organized the first and very big college
[28:58] fair at seminole high school we met
[29:00] hundreds and hundreds of parents who
[29:03] said the same thing you just said
[29:05] that they were not aware of these
[29:07] resources and these opportunities
[29:10] so i think one thing it's good that
[29:12] vinnie you're doing this via youtube
[29:15] having different
[29:16] um channels to share the information but
[29:19] i i think that you know we need to
[29:21] challenge ourselves to find as many
[29:25] ways of communicating this is possible
[29:27] i'm not sure what they are
[29:30] but there's so many parents out there
[29:32] that are not aware
[29:34] my my very last word on this for today
[29:38] oh my my advice because i had many
[29:41] challenging experiences as a parent
[29:44] with a senior in high school twice once
[29:46] with my son and one with my daughter is
[29:48] for you to stay close to them that
[29:51] is so important um college application
[29:55] process that vinnie just talked about
[29:57] can be very consuming
[30:00] and so many details and it takes several
[30:02] pairs of eyes especially for parents
[30:05] with the you know the first child going
[30:07] to college
[30:09] so i would advise that you work very
[30:11] closely with him double check everything
[30:13] make sure that he doesn't miss anything
[30:15] because it's very easy to miss something
[30:18] whole college application process
[30:21] and uh and and you know stay close with
[30:24] the advisor and counselor in school
[30:27] um you know because a lot of times we
[30:29] don't know what question to ask so it's
[30:32] um it's better just ask that open ended
[30:35] question
[30:36] please keep me posted
[30:38] please give me you know on your email
[30:40] list when you send out anything for
[30:42] seniors
[30:43] um invite me to all the events etc
[30:47] but the closer you are to him in the
[30:50] process the better
[30:53] yeah definitely yes yeah
[30:55] all these information can be
[30:56] overwhelming you don't have to do each
[30:58] and every step in one day or one week or
[31:01] one month
[31:02] um as uh who was helping with the the
[31:05] priority she was saying the bright
[31:07] future would be the number one thing
[31:09] pasta would be the number two thing and
[31:11] then
[31:12] scholarship would be number three
[31:14] and a city would be number four right
[31:16] those in sequence
[31:18] and then
[31:20] what will work
[31:22] if you set
[31:23] um
[31:24] weekly or monthly goals
[31:27] so for november month
[31:29] these are the top three things we will
[31:31] do between you your wife and your son
[31:34] right
[31:35] and then
[31:36] um
[31:37] similarly for december january february
[31:40] pick the top three things to do in
[31:42] november and same thing repeat that in
[31:45] december and january
[31:48] you will be better off
[31:50] very good advice yes thank you
[31:52] if not that it becomes very overwhelming
[31:54] for him to do the research and work on
[31:56] it yeah just even if i you know
[31:59] give him everything for him to work on
[32:01] it it's still super overwhelming but if
[32:02] i can filter it out for him and just
[32:04] give our here is kind of like that as a
[32:06] highest impact one than that and then we
[32:08] like you said every month take three
[32:11] four of them and see how many you can do
[32:13] every month and just keep repeating that
[32:15] every month
[32:18] all right i think we're good for
[32:20] ready for the weekend
[32:22] yes yes i've already
[32:24] love this conversation we are helping
[32:26] our kids
[32:28] um and building the better future for
[32:30] everyone
[32:32] and financially for the parents too yeah
[32:35] better future for us if
[32:37] we have to spend less on education then
[32:39] it's better future for us too totally
[32:42] good for our retirement and i told him i
[32:44] won a motorcycle when he graduates he
[32:46] wants to buy me a motorcycle
[32:49] [Laughter]
[32:50] all right let's let's make sure you
[32:52] graduate then
[32:54] yeah
[32:57] all right guys have a great day
[32:59] thank you
[33:13] you

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